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  • Apr 5, 2023
    Flaphead

    Elephant in the room: Ye is effectively gone, and we have no one else even close in the genre pushing boundaries the way he did. As much as I loved MMBS, Kendrick seems to be actively avoiding picking up the torch. Wayne has been coasting for years. Hov isn’t going to come back any time soon. Drake is the obvious leader of the genre currently, and he’s got zero competition pushing him to hone his sound. Imo H,N was a massive missed opportunity for a Yeezus-level career reinvention (even though I did also love that album) and Her Loss is a tacit admission that he’s going to be most rewarded by treading the same ground he largely has been since Views.

    With all of the above at present, I don’t see a lot of mainstream blockbuster rap moments in the coming decade the way we had them in the 10s. Carti and Uzi are the top of their generation imo, and neither has produced the kind of genre shifting project that the above big names did. WLR is the closest thing, and frankly it still falls short. Other top names from the past like Cole, Nicki, Future, and Cudi are all coasting to varying degrees of success as effective legacy acts. Kodak and YB are successful in their lanes, but Kodak is determined to shoot himself in the foot as often as possible and YB has zero interest in a crossover. Frustratingly, all of the biggest female rappers are leaning further into pop than rap, and exceptions like Rico and Bktherula aren’t aiming for the mainstream anyway. And bluntly, everyone else who could’ve turned the tide is dead.

    Rap isn’t dead, though, by any means. Hell, the Larry June x Alchemist project that just dropped is one of my favorites of the year along with Scaring The Hoes. But I think we’ve seen its mainstream peak in the current era, sadly. The blockbuster hit albums like the Carters or Blueprints are happening in other genres. OP, I’d challenge yourself to follow what’s popping elsewhere to see what other big names click with you, and at the same time challenge yourself to expand into less extravagant rap releases to meet the genre where it is. There’s plenty of great music to find, but the landscape has shifted significantly and imo it’s not going back to where it was for at least a generation.

    Amazing a***ysis

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    Apr 5, 2023
    eel eye

    @op

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    You not really missing much. Just tap in with jazz you'll be aight.

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    Smacked Voodoo

    You not really missing much. Just tap in with jazz you'll be aight.

    What new jazz album you recommend

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    Her loss is mid

  • Apr 5, 2023
    americana

    True, especially most of the sound being derivative of chief keef of all places

    I kinda subscribe to a “great man theory of history” with hip hop. Chief Keef or the The Weeknd in 2011-12 weren't trends you could anticipate at all, and you could probably source a significant amount of music today as some kind of derivative of those two, amongst some others.

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    Flaphead

    Elephant in the room: Ye is effectively gone, and we have no one else even close in the genre pushing boundaries the way he did. As much as I loved MMBS, Kendrick seems to be actively avoiding picking up the torch. Wayne has been coasting for years. Hov isn’t going to come back any time soon. Drake is the obvious leader of the genre currently, and he’s got zero competition pushing him to hone his sound. Imo H,N was a massive missed opportunity for a Yeezus-level career reinvention (even though I did also love that album) and Her Loss is a tacit admission that he’s going to be most rewarded by treading the same ground he largely has been since Views.

    With all of the above at present, I don’t see a lot of mainstream blockbuster rap moments in the coming decade the way we had them in the 10s. Carti and Uzi are the top of their generation imo, and neither has produced the kind of genre shifting project that the above big names did. WLR is the closest thing, and frankly it still falls short. Other top names from the past like Cole, Nicki, Future, and Cudi are all coasting to varying degrees of success as effective legacy acts. Kodak and YB are successful in their lanes, but Kodak is determined to shoot himself in the foot as often as possible and YB has zero interest in a crossover. Frustratingly, all of the biggest female rappers are leaning further into pop than rap, and exceptions like Rico and Bktherula aren’t aiming for the mainstream anyway. And bluntly, everyone else who could’ve turned the tide is dead.

    Rap isn’t dead, though, by any means. Hell, the Larry June x Alchemist project that just dropped is one of my favorites of the year along with Scaring The Hoes. But I think we’ve seen its mainstream peak in the current era, sadly. The blockbuster hit albums like the Carters or Blueprints are happening in other genres. OP, I’d challenge yourself to follow what’s popping elsewhere to see what other big names click with you, and at the same time challenge yourself to expand into less extravagant rap releases to meet the genre where it is. There’s plenty of great music to find, but the landscape has shifted significantly and imo it’s not going back to where it was for at least a generation.

    I agree but the artists I know alone could definitely make some legendary s*** if given the chance

  • Apr 5, 2023

    Yves Tumor - Hot between worlds
    Kelela - Raven
    Davido - Timeless
    Mac Ayres - Comfortable enough

    Some of my favs from this year, alll recent heat and different from a lot of the more mainstream stuff from this year

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    Lystra

    Her loss is mid

    In comparison to what tho

    If her loss is your version of mid what you listening to that’s gas in your opinion

  • Apr 5, 2023
    ryuH

    In comparison to what tho

    If her loss is your version of mid what you listening to that’s gas in your opinion

    Her Loss isn’t mid, Her Loss had the most energy I’ve heard on a big release in a while. Which is sad, because Drake has been the biggest artist in the genre for like a decade and 21 Savage has been out for a while as well. Genre has stagnated a lot in recent years, to the point where we kinda sit around waiting for one of a handful of artists that have been hear a while to drop something. I would’ve been pretty surprised to hear in 2016 that Drake would still be one of the most hyped artists and carrying mainstream rap.

  • Apr 5, 2023
    Lystra

    Listen to Lancey foux yeat and summrs

    lancey pink ii albums gets so much play by me till this day wish he was more appreciated

  • Apr 5, 2023
    ryuH

    I already be killing yeat didn’t mention bc I feel like that’s a given his newer projects don’t feel as special tho

    Never really heard s*** from summrs that grabbed me

    What you recommend from Lancey foux

    Yeat I agree was going a lot harder in 2021, in 2022 he kinda slowed down a decent amount now he basically move like an established artist only doing official release. But his new album has some dope songs, even if he refuses to write decent lyrics

    Songs from summrs I suggest:
    Z06
    Toxicity
    Cuts so deep 2
    Wake up
    Talm bout
    Fall n luv
    Coke
    Already said it ft yeat
    Used 2 it
    Outta pocket
    Mont Saint

    Lancey foux:
    India
    Colors
    Elon musk
    Ride til you die
    Honest
    Don't talk

  • Apr 5, 2023

    honestly i’ve been loving the uk sound from pinkpantheress and nia archives

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    Flaphead

    Elephant in the room: Ye is effectively gone, and we have no one else even close in the genre pushing boundaries the way he did. As much as I loved MMBS, Kendrick seems to be actively avoiding picking up the torch. Wayne has been coasting for years. Hov isn’t going to come back any time soon. Drake is the obvious leader of the genre currently, and he’s got zero competition pushing him to hone his sound. Imo H,N was a massive missed opportunity for a Yeezus-level career reinvention (even though I did also love that album) and Her Loss is a tacit admission that he’s going to be most rewarded by treading the same ground he largely has been since Views.

    With all of the above at present, I don’t see a lot of mainstream blockbuster rap moments in the coming decade the way we had them in the 10s. Carti and Uzi are the top of their generation imo, and neither has produced the kind of genre shifting project that the above big names did. WLR is the closest thing, and frankly it still falls short. Other top names from the past like Cole, Nicki, Future, and Cudi are all coasting to varying degrees of success as effective legacy acts. Kodak and YB are successful in their lanes, but Kodak is determined to shoot himself in the foot as often as possible and YB has zero interest in a crossover. Frustratingly, all of the biggest female rappers are leaning further into pop than rap, and exceptions like Rico and Bktherula aren’t aiming for the mainstream anyway. And bluntly, everyone else who could’ve turned the tide is dead.

    Rap isn’t dead, though, by any means. Hell, the Larry June x Alchemist project that just dropped is one of my favorites of the year along with Scaring The Hoes. But I think we’ve seen its mainstream peak in the current era, sadly. The blockbuster hit albums like the Carters or Blueprints are happening in other genres. OP, I’d challenge yourself to follow what’s popping elsewhere to see what other big names click with you, and at the same time challenge yourself to expand into less extravagant rap releases to meet the genre where it is. There’s plenty of great music to find, but the landscape has shifted significantly and imo it’s not going back to where it was for at least a generation.

    So what you’re telling me is hip hop is in 2010, waiting for a MBDTF to reset the game and revitalize the genre. We’re on the cusp of a new movement

  • Apr 5, 2023

    Rap is in it’s weird 00’s rock phase where, the blueprint is so far gone from its original sound, and although there’s always room for experimentation, it seems as though most of the sounds you can squeeze out of rap have been made…..but I’ll probably eat this comment in a few years when we have a new musical landscape (I mean I would hope 😂)

  • Apr 5, 2023

    Get hip to UK Rap, they might have what u looking for as far as expensive and grand albums

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    But with that said, there’s still good music out there….just doesn’t hit like it used to. Gotta find what you like

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    glassrainbow

    So what you’re telling me is hip hop is in 2010, waiting for a MBDTF to reset the game and revitalize the genre. We’re on the cusp of a new movement

    and Ice Spice will be the one to make it

  • Apr 5, 2023
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    glassrainbow

    So what you’re telling me is hip hop is in 2010, waiting for a MBDTF to reset the game and revitalize the genre. We’re on the cusp of a new movement

    Could be on the cusp of a new movement, or hip hop kinda just recedes and splits into a few different niches. Hip hop easily could’ve done that in the blog era if a few key artists and albums never happened.

  • Apr 5, 2023
    SaintJitterxburgFL

    But with that said, there’s still good music out there….just doesn’t hit like it used to. Gotta find what you like

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    Name

    Trying to find something new for you

    so you asked him about one of the most universally lauded rappers?

  • plants 🌻
    Apr 5, 2023
    Laced

    Idk why u boxed yourself in so much and expect others to be able to help u lol. Listen to more s***

    ong

    so so so much good music out rn

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    UIP

    so you asked him about one of the most universally lauded rappers?

    I get where your coming from, I am not going to assume what op has heard and has not

  • Apr 5, 2023
    soapmanwun

    and Ice Spice will be the one to make it

    Nah