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  • Nov 24, 2023
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    CKL TML

    I always hold my heart hoping its not a muslim when someone commits an act of terror but at this point people just need to learn to threat everyone as an individual instead of holding an entire group accountable for what 1 person does

    As an immigrant seeing these things happen I think I should at least appeal to my fellow immigrants to respect the land that took us in and it's people.

  • Nov 24, 2023
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    Venus as a boy

    As an immigrant seeing these things happen I think I should at least appeal to my fellow immigrants to respect the land that took us in and it's people.

    i hear that and sure it’s a good thing to do, but you’re not actually obliged to; you shouldn’t feel any more commonality with an immigrant who commits crimes than you would with a native who does

  • Bint

    i hear that and sure it’s a good thing to do, but you’re not actually obliged to; you shouldn’t feel any more commonality with an immigrant who commits crimes than you would with a native who does

    Okay you are right, I can't carry that weight

  • Nov 24, 2023

    Somewhat ironic how the goals of the contemporary Irish left would have been better served remaining under the British aegis while the goals of the contemporary British right would have been better served remaining in the European Union, despite both bitterly fighting (the Irish rather violently) to leave

  • Nov 24, 2023
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    americana

    The runoff of a history of colonialism

    what does this mean

  • Nov 24, 2023
    CKL TML

    I always hold my heart hoping its not a muslim when someone commits an act of terror but at this point people just need to learn to threat everyone as an individual instead of holding an entire group accountable for what 1 person does

    apparently the suspect who did it is an irish citizen who’s lived in the country over 20 years

    and the man who tried to stop it is a brazilian immigrant

    but why let facts get in the way of a good riot

  • Nov 24, 2023
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    scoop

    what does this mean

    He’s a dumb f*** with no concept of Irish history

  • Flying there wednesday i hope this calms down

  • Nov 24, 2023
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    Venus as a boy

    Interesting angle
    Not sure I agree, but intrigued

    It’s true. When a white person commits a mass shooting, there isn’t an outcry to send whites back to Europe.

  • Nov 25, 2023
    Theory Talk Trader

    He’s a dumb f*** with no concept of Irish history

    Lol

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    Just because Ireland did not partake in European colonialism does not mean it did not benefit from it

    It, as a member of the west/EU/NATO, is entitled to all the economic benefits and the economic advantage that being part of Europe/The West entails, which can only come about by the subjugation and violence that occurs in the global south.

    People then escape that violence, heading into the global west, and are subject to alienation, racism, marginalization, prejudice, etc

    Ireland may not be directly responsible but it is part of a network that partakes in these actions, and it receives the full effects from it

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    Just because Ireland did not partake in European colonialism does not mean it did not benefit from it

    It, as a member of the west/EU/NATO, is entitled to all the economic benefits and the economic advantage that being part of Europe/The West entails, which can only come about by the subjugation and violence that occurs in the global south.

    People then escape that violence, heading into the global west, and are subject to alienation, racism, marginalization, prejudice, etc

    Ireland may not be directly responsible but it is part of a network that partakes in these actions, and it receives the full effects from it

    honestly nah you’d get far right thugs not liking what they can’t understand in any context. if people from ghana hypothetically arrived in egypt you’d also get reactionary backlash from a small but pernicious part of the population

    not that you’re entirely wrong but one theory does not fit all. people, and particularly a small subset of people, don’t know how to handle what they don’t know and what irrationally causes them fear

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    honestly nah you’d get far right thugs not liking what they can’t understand in any context. if people from ghana hypothetically arrived in egypt you’d also get reactionary backlash from a small but pernicious part of the population

    not that you’re entirely wrong but one theory does not fit all. people, and particularly a small subset of people, don’t know how to handle what they don’t know and what irrationally causes them fear

    There’s no need for
    hypotheticals brother

    Then again you could argue Arabs and Berbers, like Europeans, actually benefit from their own colonial history of economic and political domination, subjugation, and expansion into Sub-Saharan Africa (unclear what this has to do with immigration, but that’s besides the point)

    In which case I point you here

  • Nov 25, 2023
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    There’s no need for
    hypotheticals brother

    Then again you could argue Arabs and Berbers, like Europeans, actually benefit from their own colonial history of economic and political domination, subjugation, and expansion into Sub-Saharan Africa (unclear what this has to do with immigration, but that’s besides the point)

    In which case I point you here

    yeah

    no doubt colonialism created the technology for much of contemporary oppression, but blanket prejudice against people different to you is part of human potential. sometimes the intellectualisation goes too far

  • Nov 25, 2023
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    americana

    Just because Ireland did not partake in European colonialism does not mean it did not benefit from it

    It, as a member of the west/EU/NATO, is entitled to all the economic benefits and the economic advantage that being part of Europe/The West entails, which can only come about by the subjugation and violence that occurs in the global south.

    People then escape that violence, heading into the global west, and are subject to alienation, racism, marginalization, prejudice, etc

    Ireland may not be directly responsible but it is part of a network that partakes in these actions, and it receives the full effects from it

    Your point is mostly valid, but also, Ireland isn’t a member of NATO.

  • Nov 25, 2023
    ABCDEF

    Your point is mostly valid, but also, Ireland isn’t a member of NATO.

    Wow I’m crazy ur right

  • Nov 25, 2023
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    Guy wasn’t even an immigrant he was an Irish citizen of 20 years

    bbc.com/news/world-europe-67516612

  • the guy that stopped the attack is from my city

  • Nov 27, 2023
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    I thought Europeans were supposed to be more progressive

  • Nov 27, 2023
    americana

    Guy wasn’t even an immigrant he was an Irish citizen of 20 years

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67516612

    These cacs really exposed themselves for nothing

  • Nov 27, 2023
    HURRYUPSONIC

    It’s true. When a white person commits a mass shooting, there isn’t an outcry to send whites back to Europe.

    probably because whites are the majority

    western world speaking

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    Nov 27, 2023
    Zach LaBeam

    I thought Europeans were supposed to be more progressive

    The whole thing was done by less than 500 ppl

  • Nov 27, 2023
    Zach LaBeam

    I thought Europeans were supposed to be more progressive

    This was never really true but yes it’s joever for the “Democrats would be on the right in Europe” meme

  • Nov 27, 2023
    americana

    Guy wasn’t even an immigrant he was an Irish citizen of 20 years

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67516612

    he is an immigrant. he is a naturalised citizen.

    still, it doesnt fit in with the narrative that recent ‘uncontrolled migration’ was what got him there

  • Nov 28, 2023

    Why does OP’s title say “school shooting” when it was a stabbing?