first part is wrong or at least misguided but second part is entirely correct and literally applies to hip hop as a genre i just fail to see how you’re not putting two and two together like the point is sitting right above your head you just gotta catch it nigga. also it’s bold of you to assert that any artform undergoing such changes under capitalism is in the least bit natural when it’s… literally because of capitalism
and i for one don’t consider capitalism to be the natural order of things
i guess my point is that hip hop is still brimming with interesting talent & doing a lot better than 90% of other art forms which are effected by the same negative influences . hip hop continues to do exceptionally well in a evermore cooked creative landscape imo
edit; to respond to your edit i think we pretty much totally agree here all im saying is that hip hop actually still has signs of life which is more than you could say for a lot of things in this world
The problem is the monoculture. They all basically have the same personality and upbringing to some degree whereas the big 3 era were very distinctive at least in the way they presented their culture
His mother crying on his stomach because she’s only 5’2 or him talking about being a capper who rode around in his uncles car
Like y’all niggas aren’t being serious
It's like '09 in your basement and I'm in love with Nebby
And I still love her, but it fell through because I wasn't ready
And your back hurt, and your neck hurt, and you smoking heavy
And I sit next to you, and I lecture you because those are deadly
And then you ash it, and we argue about spending money on bullshit
And you tell me I'm just like my father, my one button, you push it
Now it's, "Fuck you, I hate you, I'll move out in a heartbeat"
Then I leave out and you call me, tell me that you sorry
You love me, and I love you, and your heart hurts, mine does too
And it's just words and they cut deep, but it's our world, it's just us two
I see painkillers on the kitchen counter, I hate to see, it all hurt so bad
But maybe I wouldn't have worked as hard if you were healthy and it weren't so bad
When the f*** does Gunna talk like this? Even Rod Wave waters his s*** down to vague lyrics where it’s the sad boy caricature of what OP is talking about
I actually think Drake dumbed down his music in terms of the “emotional complexity” that @op talks about
I actually think Drake dumbed down his music in terms of the “emotional complexity” that @op talks about
Definitely as time went on. IMO That’s what Joe budden was tryna say in their lil back and forth about FATD
The problem is the monoculture. They all basically have the same personality and upbringing to some degree whereas the big 3 era were very distinctive at least in the way they presented their culture
j cole was not distinctive nigga is the definition of boring and generic and the “big three” was a bullshit concept made up by cole fans to try and compare him to drake and kendrick when he simply ain’t on their level but otherwise sure