Ain't top 10 for me
I feel he had one particularly strong style but unlike a number of other great producers, failed to have it translate as hip hop grew and he also failed to stay relevant after the 90s beyond some throwbacks here or there (such as the added scratches on Everything I Am)
hes done much more than the scratches on everything i am since the 90s
hes done much more than the scratches on everything i am since the 90s
im just using an example
hes mostly stuck to his core sound since then and hes just a dusthead now
im just using an example
hes mostly stuck to his core sound since then and hes just a dusthead now
he actually evolved alot in the 80s/90s
i would say once he perfected his sound (goat sound) he stuck to it and thats the sound hes most known for
but thats not necessarily a bad thing
ah yes of course the "dusthead" argument
Mannie Fresh IMO has the greatest claim to be the GOAT producer based off of discography quantity, timelessness of work and lack of help
You gotta talk about Daz, Chad, danja, Scott storch, Yella, Mike Dean, the hitmen, etc. if you mention the typical names that come to mind when you start saying “GOAT producer”
Mannie did all that cash money s*** with just him and maybe a band
I’m not too knowledgeable on who all did three 6 beats like that but they up there too
definitely one of the most underrated
Hasn’t made a classic beat since 2007.
He’s not too 5 anymore.
Who cares when you have the amount of material he produced in the 90s
he actually evolved alot in the 80s/90s
i would say once he perfected his sound (goat sound) he stuck to it and thats the sound hes most known for
but thats not necessarily a bad thing
ah yes of course the "dusthead" argument
well thats what happens when you are a producer that is unable to evolve with the times
Pharrell, Madlib and Timbaland are just as old as Premier and nobody calls em dustheads cuz they are so versatile and were dominant in so many eras.
The answer is Timbaland. He's had hits in more genres that anyone on this list, he's versatile, and his sampling skill is second to NONE. Kanye can't even touch Timbo when it comes to samples. He also has a distinctive sound despite all his songs sounding different.
Also: Producer = Beatmaker. Pierre, Jetson, MurdaBeatz, and a lot of other new age "producers" just make the beat and send it. Being a producer is different. Being involved in the entire song creation process makes you a great producer.
See: Kanye forcing Jamie Foxx to sing on "Slow Jamz" because He's ear was built like that. That's just one example.
well thats what happens when you are a producer that is unable to evolve with the times
Pharrell, Madlib and Timbaland are just as old as Premier and nobody calls em dustheads cuz they are so versatile and were dominant in so many eras.
wait what
he did evolve tho
plus ive heard ignorant people call madlib dusty a million times lol
its a ed argument
wait what
he did evolve tho
plus ive heard ignorant people call madlib dusty a million times lol
its a ed argument
Premier's sound feels more like catch up and in the underground hip hop scene hes far from being an in demand producer anymore unlike a Madlib or Alchemist.
Pharrell is still 20 years later one of the most in demand producers in pop, hip hop, r&b, whatever and Timbaland has fallen to a degree but he is still requested to help on huge projects which is wild considering he been making hits since the 90s
Op real as f*** for posting “Let Em Know”. It’s the greatest looped best of all time imo.
Premier's sound feels more like catch up and in the underground hip hop scene hes far from being an in demand producer anymore unlike a Madlib or Alchemist.
Pharrell is still 20 years later one of the most in demand producers in pop, hip hop, r&b, whatever and Timbaland has fallen to a degree but he is still requested to help on huge projects which is wild considering he been making hits since the 90s
catching up to what?
youre fooling yourself if you think theres no demand for premier beats... there must be xxxx rappers who would die to rap over a premo beat
but yeah well the mainstream sound changed and the golden age sound kinda went underground
and timbo & pharrell were right there when the sound swifted
i dont care if todays rappers prefer them over premo. his prime joints are unmatched to this day
Preemos sound was and is so classic and important that to this day and age people f*** and ride with it, also the reason he didnt need to evolve, which is also the proof how much greater his sound is than any others producers whos sound aged liked milk and needed to 'evolve' because of that lol. He shaped huge part of the hiphop that
still lives and breathes extremely well through the culture even 30 years later..and his sound is 'hiphop' for the people.. all.. over.. the.. world, to this day.
catching up to what?
youre fooling yourself if you think theres no demand for premier beats... there must be xxxx rappers who would die to rap over a premo beat
but yeah well the mainstream sound changed and the golden age sound kinda went underground
and timbo & pharrell were right there when the sound swifted
i dont care if todays rappers prefer them over premo. his prime joints are unmatched to this day
To me its always subjective in terms of what you prefer. Like personally I would take hundreds of producers beats over Premo, many of whom are not even big names. But objectively, I think to judge a great producer is to see how impactful and versatile they have been and for how long. And Premo only truly was dominant in one era while Pharrell went from writing 40% of the hits on the radio to still being a viable hit maker and working on classics like Blonde or TPAB
and catching up to the current trends in underground rap, much of which has been progressed by producers like Alchemist and Madlib and Harry Fraud.
Even 9th Wonder produced a more forward thinking beat for Kendrick than anything Premo has in decades.
To me its always subjective in terms of what you prefer. Like personally I would take hundreds of producers beats over Premo, many of whom are not even big names. But objectively, I think to judge a great producer is to see how impactful and versatile they have been and for how long. And Premo only truly was dominant in one era while Pharrell went from writing 40% of the hits on the radio to still being a viable hit maker and working on classics like Blonde or TPAB
and catching up to the current trends in underground rap, much of which has been progressed by producers like Alchemist and Madlib and Harry Fraud.
Even 9th Wonder produced a more forward thinking beat for Kendrick than anything Premo has in decades.
i think if you can list 100 beats over 1 premo beat then ur taste simply suxs
acting prhyme 1 wasnt one of the most hyped underground projects of the 2010s
Hes past his prime but He’s up there for sure. His 90s s*** is aging so good SMH. Like forreal his s*** never gets old..