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  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Clearly mentioned in the OP. Quit being soft.

    Did I quote or @ you about it? I quoted him for bringing the poem up like that's the only s*** Drake did during that time

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Gris

    Did I quote or @ you about it? I quoted him for bringing the poem up like that's the only s*** Drake did during that time

    You softer than baby s*** b. Who cares about the poem when it's clearly stated in the OP that Drake has donated money to bail funds and BLM? You just looking for something to be in your feelings about.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Lock this s*** up, please.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    You softer than baby s*** b. Who cares about the poem when it's clearly stated in the OP that Drake has donated money to bail funds and BLM? You just looking for something to be in your feelings about.

    "Who cares about the poem" uhh clearly the motherfucker that I quoted who brought it up you f***ing re tard. Talkin bout "yOu soFt" for giving a response to someone who cares about it enough to make a solo post about it. God damn some of you on here truly have a negative IQ

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Gris

    "Who cares about the poem" uhh clearly the motherfucker that I quoted who brought it up you f***ing re tard. Talkin bout "yOu soFt" for giving a response to someone who cares about it enough to make a solo post about it. God damn some of you on here truly have a negative IQ

    Cry more stan.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Cry more stan.

    Yeah that's the only thing you can say f***ing bozo

  • Oct 20, 2020
    thegreatdivine

    Lock this s*** up, please.

    On god cause I'll be damned if I'm gonna have to sift through any other post in this thread from sensitive Drake stans who are hurt by a thread that isn't even an attack on Drake.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Gris

    Yeah that's the only thing you can say f***ing bozo

  • Oct 20, 2020
    Smacked Voodoo

    You posting a smiley of all you been taking since you made this thread

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    I think its getting to the point where he has to address it.

    What else is there to talk about. Drake will look really patetic dropping this CLB album and its nothing but more gloating about himself.

    His market is America. Alot is going on right now. Unfortunately he hasn’t addressed many things on a non-musical, general scale, so part of me thinks this album is being reformed to be slightly more aware.

    He’s not gonna retain black peoples attention like in the past, including non- black people who dealing with additional s***, maybe he’ll keep the tik-tokers attention. So what will he really talk about? Himself? If so hes gonna flop.

  • Oct 20, 2020

    Drake has talked repeatedly about social issues, especially about him being mixed.
    "I used to get teased for being black
    And now I'm here and I'm not black enough"

  • Oct 20, 2020

    Only read the title

    But yeah, if u want to be the perfect product and biggest artist in the world, you cant have an opinion

    like michael jordan with the republicans by shoes too

  • Oct 20, 2020
    thegreatdivine

    Lock this s*** up, please.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    op is one of the corniest people on this whole site

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Makes him even greater, most of the social politic tracks are indeed as you call them ‘easy lay-ups’.

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    !https://youtu.be/nB7L1BIDELc!https://youtu.be/jqo9gPxT6A8

    He speaks on canadian issues a lot but yall dont care.

    Niggas would hate on him crazy if he as a canadian inserts himself into american issues too much.

    Biggie = GOAT no overt sociopolitical content

    Mike = GOAT no overt sociopolitical content

    Jay Z turned woke later in his career btw.

    I don't remember any biggie song being political so that's right but keep in mind he passed away at 24 with 2 albums (of course you have tupac who passed away at 25 but tupac was raised by a black panther...)

    MJ had

    • a controversial dance intro for the black and white music video (the black panther dance) in which he smashes a "kkk rules" tag on a window and references the black panther party

    (+ the lyrics of the song black and white)

    • they don't really care about us (just look up the lyrics)
    • we are the world (he co wrote it)
    • The fact he put only black people in his remember the time music video (about ancient Egypt) was also astonishing for a major artist like that
      That's just of the top
      The mj argument falls flat...
  • Oct 20, 2020
    DREE

    op is one of the corniest people on this whole site

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Some artist know how to revigorate/uplift their people when times are hard...
    It doesn't have to be depressing

    Several protest songs I know of the top aren't depressing (ie. Public enemy: fight the power)

    Also very ironic comment imo since drake makes quite a significant amount of songs about his relationship woes that could be considered sad right...???...

  • Oct 20, 2020
    DonutHole

    Some artist know how to revigorate/uplift their people when times are hard...
    It doesn't have to be depressing

    Several protest songs I know of the top aren't depressing (ie. Public enemy: fight the power)

    !https://youtu.be/mmo3HFa2vjg

    Also very ironic comment imo since drake makes quite a significant amount of songs about his relationship woes that could be considered sad right...???...

    I see what you mean, but the guy I was replying to was saying that Drake wasn’t going to be successful if he didnt become sociopolitical. There are uplifting sociopolitical songs, but most of them are sad/depressing because most of our sociopolitical climate is rather sad/depressing atm. My point is that there are enough people already making sociopolitical songs and most of them are all talking about the same thing and are very similar to each other. I don’t think there is much to be said that hasn’t already been said by rappers at least.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    Some of you behave like sheep that need guidance from people more famous and more rich than you. God bless the day y'all learn to stop looking to celebrities to lead you or speak on things you feel they need to speak out about.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    thegreatdivine

    Some of you behave like sheep that need guidance from people more famous and more rich than you. God bless the day y'all learn to stop looking to celebrities to lead you or speak on things you feel they need to speak out about.

    That's a strawman
    Historically political artists didn't make music to guide anyone but to speak out about topics ignored by the media or politics in general

    Some artists were directly affected by political climate thus it became apart of their lives, a part they wanted to talk about amongst other things
    Artist historically have ignited whole revolutions even involuntary (I live in a country that got their independence by deciding to fight for it after a Spanish opera play, true story)

    There are also artists who feel about issues greater than their navel who have written songs for causes that didn't directly affect them but their morals/values/philosphy prompted them to do so (ie: 19th Greek revolution/independence had alot of European artists supporting it by creating art)

    It's not just music but art in general that is heavily tied to life and thus a fraction will contain politics

    • Picasso painted "guernica" during -Franko era of fascism in Spain
    • Bob Marley wrote songs to uplift his people during very tense, violent and corrupt political climate in Jamaica

    I'd could go on and on about different art forms that have contributed to civilization by addressing politics but since this is ktt (drake sxn at that) I'd keep it short...

    I'm just trynna point out that the argument of "were asking them to make political music because we want a leader" is far from the truth, most of those works of art were created on the initiative of the artist .
    You can't use it to say "grow up, you don't need them" when they have historically showed up without being asked too and delivered inspiration/hope/awareness that the people didn't know they needed and cherish/study till this day....

    Ps: it's fine to make art that isn't political at all too, I personally don't think that art has a way too be
    When it comes to drake he's a mainstream rapper/popstar singer so I'm not holding him to do anything but feed his fans with his catchy hit tunes
    Edit: I just re read your initial post and you're right we shouldn't ever look at "celebrities" for "" guidance"" but there's always a place for artists, some are both (don't take this as a drake diss I consider him to be both just not politically engaged)

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    DonutHole

    That's a strawman
    Historically political artists didn't make music to guide anyone but to speak out about topics ignored by the media or politics in general

    Some artists were directly affected by political climate thus it became apart of their lives, a part they wanted to talk about amongst other things
    Artist historically have ignited whole revolutions even involuntary (I live in a country that got their independence by deciding to fight for it after a Spanish opera play, true story)

    There are also artists who feel about issues greater than their navel who have written songs for causes that didn't directly affect them but their morals/values/philosphy prompted them to do so (ie: 19th Greek revolution/independence had alot of European artists supporting it by creating art)

    It's not just music but art in general that is heavily tied to life and thus a fraction will contain politics

    • Picasso painted "guernica" during -Franko era of fascism in Spain
    • Bob Marley wrote songs to uplift his people during very tense, violent and corrupt political climate in Jamaica
    !https://youtu.be/YhXQ_rEGVFc!https://youtu.be/I0XMJMphPT4

    I'd could go on and on about different art forms that have contributed to civilization by addressing politics but since this is ktt (drake sxn at that) I'd keep it short...

    I'm just trynna point out that the argument of "were asking them to make political music because we want a leader" is far from the truth, most of those works of art were created on the initiative of the artist .
    You can't use it to say "grow up, you don't need them" when they have historically showed up without being asked too and delivered inspiration/hope/awareness that the people didn't know they needed and cherish/study till this day....

    Ps: it's fine to make art that isn't political at all too, I personally don't think that art has a way too be
    When it comes to drake he's a mainstream rapper/popstar singer so I'm not holding him to do anything but feed his fans with his catchy hit tunes
    Edit: I just re read your initial post and you're right we shouldn't ever look at "celebrities" for "" guidance"" but there's always a place for artists, some are both (don't take this as a drake diss I consider him to be both just not politically engaged)

    I didn't read what you wrote because it's too long, but my point still stands. Things like this are rooted in people's need to be lead by anyone other than themselves. It's why people get so mad when celebrities don't "speak out" and people keep demanding that Drake make socially conscious music despite that being something he has never done despite having multiple opportunities to.

  • There are artists who make socially conscious music. Listen to them. Stop expecting Drake to do the same simply because he's as famous and as successful as he is. Jesus.

  • Oct 20, 2020
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    you think you slick putting Kendrick and not Eminem

  • Oct 20, 2020
    thegreatdivine

    I didn't read what you wrote because it's too long, but my point still stands. Things like this are rooted in people's need to be lead by anyone other than themselves. It's why people get so mad when celebrities don't "speak out" and people keep demanding that Drake make socially conscious music despite that being something he has never done despite having multiple opportunities to.

    You didn't read but your points still stands??? Got it