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    Artists have always created to make money and sustain themselves so yeah, it's still art

  • Nov 7, 2019
    Water Giver

    This thread is art

  • Nov 7, 2019
    Water Giver

    This thread is art

    real

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    Death

    it’s not the 1600s. art has been redefined so much that it’s dumb to try to declare something can or can’t be art

    Not sure how u drew that out of what i said.
    Im not putting a defn on art im leaving it open.

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    Dankmustard Mobile

    Not sure how u drew that out of what i said.
    Im not putting a defn on art im leaving it open.

    you defined art as something that makes you feel

    that’s definitely a limited way to think of it

  • Nov 7, 2019
    BRAVE

    Yes

    But because of artistic movements in the 19th and 20th century, society has been conditioned to think that great or "true" art = "selfless" art, aka art created without desire for material things (which is seen as impure, ie this thread's existence)

    The intent behind art's creation doesn't make it less art, it's just different. But a lot of the time art made solely for the purpose of money will be s*** (that's not to say art made without money in mind can't be s*** either tho).

    It's all about the skill of the artist at the end of the day

    Facts some of the greatest art of all time was done explicitly for a patron/their fee

  • Nov 7, 2019

    see finally rich by chief keef

  • FREE 💜
    Nov 7, 2019

    Yes

  • FREE 💜
    Nov 7, 2019

    Juicy by Biggie is art and it was done for the express point of making a hit.

  • Nessy 🦎
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    Death

    it’s not the 1600s. art has been redefined so much that it’s dumb to try to declare something can or can’t be art

    funny cause art in the 1600s was primarily made for money

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    Aphrodite

    Because there is criteria that makes an artist/good art. Just creating something is not art. Do you see acts like Ariana grande or one direction as art?

    yeah

    do you see later era disco Bee Gees as "not art" because they sold out?

  • Nov 7, 2019
    Death

    yes. it takes a great artist to get hit after hit for 10 years straight. even if it’s for money, their skill at creating accessible art can’t be denied

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    halfmysight

    I think art that is for nothing other than its ability to make money is not true art. If something is made with the primary purpose of making a profit, the creator is not making art. They are making money. Art is not for money. Art is inherently focused around some form of expression. A movie that takes no artistic risks or innovations and has the primary purpose of making money is not art. It is akin to an amusement park ride. Which is also not art. Sure it can make you feel something, but it is not art.

  • Nov 7, 2019

    Nope that’s why marvel movies suck ass 🙂

  • I feel like art deep down has always been about ego. Self expression is obviously the most important aspect but ....

  • Death

    you defined art as something that makes you feel

    that’s definitely a limited way to think of it

    Exactly, everyone feels things differently, some may not feel anything at all. But each others subjective opinions dont define whether or not its art.

    Back to my point, if an artist is creating art (for people to feel) with money in mind that isn’t always a bad thing.

    If they’re chasing fast money, then yea definitely.

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    rvi

    yeah

    do you see later era disco Bee Gees as "not art" because they sold out?

    It seems interesting when that happens. I'd just call The Bee Gees true artists that wanted to make money so they did, not someone who wanted to make money so they attempted art.

    So I'd consider what they did art

  • Nov 7, 2019

    literally everything is art, you can never give concrete definitions because you can always find exceptions

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    Aphrodite

    Because there is criteria that makes an artist/good art. Just creating something is not art. Do you see acts like Ariana grande or one direction as art?

    what exactly is that criteria?

  • Nov 7, 2019
    Nessy

    funny cause art in the 1600s was primarily made for money

    isn’t that the point of the thread

  • Nov 7, 2019

    There’s fast food and then there’s culinary food.

    There’s your answer, just apply it to the other art forms

  • Hi-C 🦌
    Nov 7, 2019

    Something that is artistic shouldn't matter what the intent behind it is. Plenty of artists make "art" that is intended to move people that is s***ty as f***. Does that put it above other art that is intended to make money but is objectively better? Of course not.

  • Nov 7, 2019

    just admit you hate drake

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    Notmyfirst

    what exactly is that criteria?

    Inspiration,passion,talent, skill, and vision

    The first 3 are subjective, abstract and indirect