this aint a debate club

Music is good or bad

Tyler the creator (for example) is bad

Lmao @ people trying to say it’s completely subjective. You need some objective logical basis for a***yzing art. Everyone agrees that my elementary school art projects are trash. Or that the writing for The Room is too cringe to be taken seriously. Why can’t we talk about music the same way? So sick of this annoying reddit take of “its subjective”.

In an actual discussion? Absolutely b

I respect descriptive a***ysis, I hate number ratings and umbrella terms b

I think ‘subjective anything’ is a cop out. There’s only one fact, what’s good and what’s bad. Trying to distort that is a cop out

If a song goes #1 in america it’s objectively a good song

real

nigga shut up

If being on the internet and on this site specifically isn't proof music is completely subjective I dont know what kinda proof would convince you b

Yes and no.

stop worrying so much about what people like, its a sign of insecurity

Ya
Is a cop out used by gardeners

STOP MAKIKG POSTS LIKE THIS - 4000GIANNI

Yes tho

Music is subjective because what you enjoy is ultimately based on you as an individual. There will always be objective factors that exist. Like how varied an artist’s flows are or how dense their lyrics are, but enjoying these objective markers is subjective. And being better than one artists in some objective term does not make their music good, it just means they’re good at doing a thing. If they’re good at doing many things, it still doesn’t mean the music is “good” because art’s goal is to be expressive and appreciated which has no correlation with any objective traits. It’s such a meaningless argument and it only exists because people want for things to be compared and competitive when there is no point in it

Music is subjective because what you enjoy is ultimately based on you as an individual. There will always be objective factors that exist. Like how varied an artist’s flows are or how dense their lyrics are, but enjoying these objective markers is subjective. And being better than one artists in some objective term does not make their music good, it just means they’re good at doing a thing. If they’re good at doing many things, it still doesn’t mean the music is “good” because art’s goal is to be expressive and appreciated which has no correlation with any objective traits. It’s such a meaningless argument and it only exists because people want for things to be compared and competitive when there is no point in it

Music is subjective because what you enjoy is ultimately based on you as an individual. There will always be objective factors that exist. Like how varied an artist’s flows are or how dense their lyrics are, but enjoying these objective markers is subjective. And being better than one artists in some objective term does not make their music good, it just means they’re good at doing a meaningless thing that only matters to those who like it. If they’re good at doing many things, it still doesn’t mean the music is “good” because art’s goal is to be expressive and appreciated which has no correlation with any objective traits. It’s such a meaningless argument and it only exists because people want for things to be compared and competitive when there is no point in it

Classics are objectively good