that's different though, both sides are benefiting
Yea im sayin I think trippie sees his situation like this, but Pierre doesn’t (pierre is in the right here)
bro artists dont pay for beats out of their pocket, labels give them an album budget and all of their expenses while recording the album have to come from that budget
if my homie has a limited budget where he can pay 40k for a beat, but i charge 80k for beats, better believe im giving him the beat for 40k because I know he really can't do more than that
anything else is being a trash friend
But are they real friends or industry friends
My take is, clearly Trippie and Pi’erre been working together forever, Nudy and Trippie were the first real artists with promise giving him a chance so I get why Trippie feels entitled about Pierre’s production and come up. The thing that we don’t know is how much he was charging before or if he was charging at all. If you got a business relation and friendship wit someone and they f*** you over by running up the price of what they are trying to sell you, you arnt just gonna be mad from the business sense but also like that person has switched up on you. S***ty situation all around but more or less seems like Pi’erre is realizing his worth and isn’t handing out s*** anymore so his “friends” are showing their true colors now that it’s gonna f*** up their money or quality of music.
My take is, clearly Trippie and Pi’erre been working together forever, Nudy and Trippie were the first real artists with promise giving him a chance so I get why Trippie feels entitled about Pierre’s production and come up. The thing that we don’t know is how much he was charging before or if he was charging at all. If you got a business relation and friendship wit someone and they f*** you over by running up the price of what they are trying to sell you, you arnt just gonna be mad from the business sense but also like that person has switched up on you. S***ty situation all around but more or less seems like Pi’erre is realizing his worth and isn’t handing out s*** anymore so his “friends” are showing their true colors now that it’s gonna f*** up their money or quality of music.
every time he asks for free s*** Pierre is putting in work and losing money, at some point enough is enough
bro artists dont pay for beats out of their pocket, labels give them an album budget and all of their expenses while recording the album have to come from that budget
if my homie has a limited budget where he can pay 40k for a beat, but i charge 80k for beats, better believe im giving him the beat for 40k because I know he really can't do more than that
anything else is being a trash friend
Most of the time artists dont spend anywhere near their entire budget on the actual music but instead keep the money to themselves
Major label artist budgets be big af too, pierre knows this
every time he asks for free s*** Pierre is putting in work and losing money, at some point enough is enough
I mean like I said it’s a s***ty situation but it makes sense from Pierre’s perspective. If they were really your homie they would be paying you what you are worth (especially since Pierre’s production does enhance Trippies songs a lot). Should be a cobeneficial relationship not just a leech who only wants beats and doesn’t want to pay for them.
"This nigga looked like he crawled out of a cabinet"
-Daylyt
nope, not fair
if that's the argument, pierre trippin
but trippie stole gummo back then so pierre might not be a "friend" like trippie thinks nowadays
a real friend will pay market price
I mean like I said it’s a s***ty situation but it makes sense from Pierre’s perspective. If they were really your homie they would be paying you what you are worth (especially since Pierre’s production does enhance Trippies songs a lot). Should be a cobeneficial relationship not just a leech who only wants beats and doesn’t want to pay for them.
a real friend will pay market price
or even more, you gon tip your homies more at a restaurant
a real friend will pay market price
yeah thats why i even said last sentence
pierre might not consider him a "friend" now like how trippie thinks
cause sometimes people be squashing s***, but they dont forget
trippie took gummo pierre agreed, but he showed it to 69 without trippie and 69 tellin pierre about it
mf even made the song and uploaded it, blew up
so Pierre is in the right to do whatever he wants
Rap is just fortunate that the term “producer” doesn’t have the same connotations as it does in other genres. Where it’s synonymous and the same as just being an artist in that genre and you’re actually the outlier if you don’t produce, like electronic music for example. These rappers wouldn’t exist without the producers, it’s a symbiotic relationship but rappers profit the most cause they’re f***ing parasites and producers are expendable when most niggas make the same s***. So when a nigga like Pierre not only makes a unique sound but is willing to rap on his s*** too, I see why these rap niggas afraid.
yup
Rap is just fortunate that the term “producer” doesn’t have the same connotations as it does in other genres. Where it’s synonymous and the same as just being an artist in that genre and you’re actually the outlier if you don’t produce, like electronic music for example. These rappers wouldn’t exist without the producers, it’s a symbiotic relationship but rappers profit the most cause they’re f***ing parasites and producers are expendable when most niggas make the same s***. So when a nigga like Pierre not only makes a unique sound but is willing to rap on his s*** too, I see why these rap niggas afraid.
there was a time when producers werent even mentioned like that
now they make the song, literally, the beat is probably the best thing nowadays
i dont mind producers getting the bag now
1000% on the money. Pierre is the taste maker rn that ish don't come cheap. If the music good it'll do numbers ad generate revenue so artists have to respect what producers do. There is a huge personal factor here though and we can't really speak on that
1000% on the money. Pierre is the taste maker rn that ish don't come cheap. If the music good it'll do numbers ad generate revenue so artists have to respect what producers do. There is a huge personal factor here though and we can't really speak on that
of course
there was a time when producers werent even mentioned like that
now they make the song, literally, the beat is probably the best thing nowadays
i dont mind producers getting the bag now
RZA got paid 100-125k a beat in his prime
If he feels that’s what he’s worth then I can’t hate
But ain’t no way in HELL im dropping a whole Porsche/Benz for a Pierre beat like niggas on YouTube can’t replicate his formula
RZA got paid 100-125k a beat in his prime
i just said overall
RZA was unique too back then so
Pierre kinda unique now
there was a time when producers werent even mentioned like that
now they make the song, literally, the beat is probably the best thing nowadays
i dont mind producers getting the bag now
there was a time when producers werent even mentioned like that
now they make the song, literally, the beat is probably the best thing nowadays
i dont mind producers getting the bag now