Jody

3y

Hip-hip isn’t a monolith

MM6 Moka

3y

White boys want it to be but it ain’t

necromancer

3y

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I agree, and that’s what posts like this tend to forget

I believe music, to some extent, transcends material concepts like gentrification and there is something for everybody

While the mainstream has been watered down (by the hands of record labels and other interests), there is still a burgeoning counterculture within hip-hop

HoneyBunny

3y

been gentrified the moment yall gassed up the marshall mathers lp

HoneyBunny

3y

been gentrified the moment yall gassed up the marshall mathers lp

First Take

3y

The FBI controls everything

HoneyBunny

3y

been gentrified the moment yall gassed up the marshall mathers lp

So Illegal

3y

Not reading all that but to answer your question no its not

A lot of non black people hopped on rap in the last decade but they are strictly consumers, they dont dictate trends or introduce anything new.

The core of rap is still with young black men from poor-lower middle class backgrounds

Jody

3y

Could see hip-hop culture slowly become overwhelmingly non white Hispanic

a0n5sjo9js

3y

I mean rap is pretty universal more than ever now, most countries have their own rap scenes and styles and we've had international features before in the mainstream and in underground circles.

Jody

3y

I mean in terms of mainstream hip-hop culture

HoneyBunny

3y

been gentrified the moment yall gassed up the marshall mathers lp

necromancer

3y

Is hip-hop as a culture even real, or is it just a construct invented by record labels and people who have money in the game (both black and white upper-class) to make the consumerist cycling sound better, and to justify the f***ed up labor conditions artists have to go through as “trials and tribulations” for the art?

HoneyBunny

3y

been gentrified the moment yall gassed up the marshall mathers lp

gabapentin

3y

it is the instantiation of blackness for sale under capitalism, with all that entails (employed in a s*** deal under the white man, conspicuous consumption, deaths of violence and despair, schizophrenic self-conception, Blackness as product consumed by up to a majority of nonwhites, anything authentic being refracted through prism of culture industry, intraracial collaborations being productive and necessary but potentially fraught)

What was the authentic core of when fellas were breakdancing in the Bronx is long gone, but also omnipresent just under the surface in what has resulted from the adoption by the culture industry as the authentic representation of late 20th century Black culture

Whether or not the current version of hip-hop is authentic to its “no commercial” core, it is embraced by millions, so it is undoubtedly real

necromancer

3y

Is hip-hop as a culture even real, or is it just a construct invented by record labels and people who have money in the game (both black and white upper-class) to make the consumerist cycling sound better, and to justify the f***ed up labor conditions artists have to go through as “trials and tribulations” for the art?

joestar

3y

The thread title is valid but the example you used makes 0 sense.

If anything this is the EASIEST time for someone who doesn’t have a lot of money to make music/music videos

Obviously a nigga like Drake has a way different budget but why would a broke artist in the streets be comparing themselves to that to begin with

joestar

3y

Is hip hop just a euphemism for a new religion?