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  • Oct 11, 2021

    The vast amount of hip hop artists remain black and the socioeconomic status most hip hop artists have to overcome to become successful remains the same. And overall the message in hip hop has remained the same, the come up, starting from little to make it big is the core tenant of the culture and remains so.

    What you define as very little can vary from person to person. Someone like Jay-Z lived in the projects and has seen the darkest plights of that life beginning but was well known to actually be making so much money in the d*** game that people were afraid he wouldn't switch over to making music. Then there's a person like Drake who wasn't destitute economically but never really had status of being cool or fully part of the black community or a firm music community in Toronto for his music when coming up and really had to fight for credibility.

    The only difference now is that the audience continues to skew Caucasian which is only natural because western, English speaking society is primarily Caucasian. So as the genre and artform continue to grow, it expands past it's initial audience and is now being consumed by people who didn't help it's creation and doesn't fully belong to the community. This is natural progression.

    In terms of people constantly rapping about money, that's something that's existed since the 1980s because people were broke as hell living in a capitalist society that was (and continues to) put them at a disadvantage and dampen their survival. The origins of hip hop is rapping about yourself and rapping about problems you have, money being the most important thing in your society and you not having it is a massive problem. When you do have money, you celebrate it, again with it being the most important thing in your society.

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    Do you want rich people like Drake acting poor when they're not? Wouldn't that be fake? What exactly do you want from him? Hip-hop always been about expressing yourself and Drake is the best when it comes to that type of writing

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    We Didnt Like That

    Yeah op talking about you need the most expensive equipment like Drake himself didn't record So Far Gone on some cheap as ear buds and 40's laptop he's a great example of coming from the basics and building a empire

    And kids today have access to more independent production from lowkey producers and artists making covers on Insta for cheap. All you need is a good idea to stand out

    Drake is from the suburbs and was an actor before he started making music

    So he didn’t exactly start from nothing like others have

  • the biggest music labels are owned by old white men and have been for decades. this is nothing new. rap is just more “mainstream” now, meaning there are more white consumers

  • Oct 11, 2021
    necromancer

    Is hip-hop as a culture even real, or is it just a construct invented by record labels and people who have money in the game (both black and white upper-class) to make the consumerist cycling sound better, and to justify the f***ed up labor conditions artists have to go through as “trials and tribulations” for the art?

    That’s most culture in America lol

    Every cultural norm we’ve had in the modern day was constructed during Cold War era institutions like Hollywood or the college system since there’s no extensive history or tradition within America

    It’s f***ed

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    We Didnt Like That

    Do you want rich people like Drake acting poor when they're not? Wouldn't that be fake? What exactly do you want from him? Hip-hop always been about expressing yourself and Drake is the best when it comes to that type of writing

  • Jon

    Drake is from the suburbs and was an actor before he started making music

    So he didn’t exactly start from nothing like others have

    Yeah but he was just a child actor with no connections. Him, 40, Nickelus, 1da and all his crew had to grind for years before he got lucky and someone put Wayne on to him and then he put his boys on with him

  • Oct 11, 2021
    Jody
    !https://youtu.be/-D6USHQMFDE

    Your IQ isn't very high is it

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    In terms of listeners yeah but in terms of music itself nah

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    The best rappers come from the hood and that ain’t ever changing. There’s only a handful of exceptions. Niggas like Drake, Earl, Travis Scott etc are the exceptions

  • Oct 11, 2021
    Jody

    Hip-hip isn’t a monolith

    Its a mountain. White on top and black on the bottom 😎

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  • proper 🔩
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    SHAQUILLE

    The best rappers come from the hood and that ain’t ever changing. There’s only a handful of exceptions. Niggas like Drake, Earl, Travis Scott etc are the exceptions

    Trav too

  • Oct 11, 2021
    math fifty

    In terms of listeners yeah but in terms of music itself nah

    Good post

    White boys have rallied behind NBA Youngboy for God's sake lmao

  • Oct 11, 2021

    What would happen to hip-hop if the ghetto ceased to exist

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    SHAQUILLE

    The best rappers come from the hood and that ain’t ever changing. There’s only a handful of exceptions. Niggas like Drake, Earl, Travis Scott etc are the exceptions

    Eminem

  • Oct 11, 2021
    joestar

    Eminem

    Eminem isn't from the "hood" in the traditional sense

    Mans was living in trailer parks and s***

  • Oct 11, 2021
    proper
    https://twitter.com/thekidmero/status/1447577293640060933

    Damn… Connor gettin it tho

  • Jody
    !https://youtu.be/-D6USHQMFDE

    I wish you actually listen to the lyrics if you niggas love hiphop so much. Literally the most important part

  • Oct 11, 2021

    Did op say Drake stole hip hop and the culture, or am I reading that wrong?

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    I would not have guessed this thread was going to be about Drake from the title, but here we are

    and no, kids are blowing up off bandlab vocals recorded w apple earbud mics, high end gear is not required

  • Oct 11, 2021

    Like all popular things, it got exploited and we are at a low point in hip-hop

    But there are still high quality hip-hop in 2021, you just gotta look for it or wait for those high quality rappers to drop

  • Oct 11, 2021

    I DONT GIVE A F***

    if the music is good I dont care about the politics that niggas want to attach to it!