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  • Aug 8, 2020
    AKFresh

    In other words if my son dies than your son also has to die

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    Swz3000

    I’m not saying it’s a human rights violation, just trying to say that if u believe healthcare is not a inherent right because it relies on someone providing a service, how do you square that with education which operates on the same principle and is considered an inherent right throughout most of the world?

    I don’t believe it is

    And if education is a human right then we are a failure at providing it as a society

  • Aug 8, 2020
    KOLLAPS

    I don’t believe it is

    And if education is a human right then we are a failure at providing it as a society

    That's right, we are

  • Aug 8, 2020
    EuroNymous

    Like literally Otto von Bismarck's a right wing guy implemented it in 19th century while Americans can't agree on M4A

    Thats bc Bismarck had threats of leftist insurrections looming over his head so they had to give the workers something

    If there aint no pressure there aint no reason to give anything to the masses

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    KOLLAPS

    I don’t believe it is

    And if education is a human right then we are a failure at providing it as a society

    not quite sure what you mean - are you saying you don’t think education SHOULD be an inherent right?

    I don’t think you can argue that it IS being provided as a right - afaik across the Western world at the very least, all children are guaranteed free schooling generally until the age of 16 as a minimum.

    Providing education requires a service (teachers teaching), so if this service role can be provided as a universal right, why would the service aspect of healthcare prevent it from being provided similarly?

  • Aug 8, 2020
    Swz3000

    not quite sure what you mean - are you saying you don’t think education SHOULD be an inherent right?

    I don’t think you can argue that it IS being provided as a right - afaik across the Western world at the very least, all children are guaranteed free schooling generally until the age of 16 as a minimum.

    Providing education requires a service (teachers teaching), so if this service role can be provided as a universal right, why would the service aspect of healthcare prevent it from being provided similarly?

    I see what you’re getting at.

    I’m not saying I don’t think it should be I don’t think it is even though we treat it as such. I’m not a big fan of the Board of Education.

    With that being said, in the last year I’ve become a lot more open to the idea of universal since I’ve opened my eyes to how much money the government has wasted on such unnecessary things (most specifically military coups and such) that I don’t see why we can’t contribute money to protect those Americans who we have no problem “protecting” when we want some Middle Eastern oil.

    But I still don’t know how I feel about it. For me the socialistic aspect of it is no longer what bothers me, but more so the practicality of it. It could be a disastrous result.