I am fully aware of the history of sampling in hip hop.
Yet you're in here saying it's a bad thing
He did. 808s doesn't have many samples.
I don't really care anyway. Kanye isn't that good.
yeah kanye sucks
Yet you're in here saying it's a bad thing
What is your argument here? That it is a good thing because hip hop is based on it?
no ideas original
True.
But Hip hop and pop producers are a special kind of lazy and untalented.
What is your argument here? That it is a good thing because hip hop is based on it?
Yes?
Need someone to define "give credit"
Because this isn't the first time I've seen where an artist/producer will clear a sample, and then random ass people will complain that they didn't give credit. That's literally the point of paying for the sample in the first place.
True.
But Hip hop and pop producers are a special kind of lazy and untalented.
generalising - sampling isn’t all lazy my guy although there are examples you could find which are
i find truly good sampling to be as inspired as an original production
Yes it is.
Kanye once said this. He said hip hop producers have to step away from sampling because it is getting lazy.
04_Otis.mp3
Yeah, hold up. Sampling ain’t lazy
It can be. Timbo didn’t really flip those creatively he just ripped them completely
Need someone to define "give credit"
Because this isn't the first time I've seen where an artist/producer will clear a sample, and then random ass people will complain that they didn't give credit. That's literally the point of paying for the sample in the first place.
This is actually a good example of f***ing over the little guy. Hip hop producers find unknown songs from much smaller artists, pay them to use the work and take credit. Believe me these hip hop producers are taking credit whether it be directly or indirectly.
Nobody reading credits. You have to go out of your way to do that, and everybody knows this.
generalising - sampling isn’t all lazy my guy although there are examples you could find which are
i find truly good sampling to be as inspired as an original production
You got an example?
Yes it is.
Kanye once said this. He said hip hop producers have to step away from sampling because it is getting lazy.
Crine at you mentioning Ye when this dude whole discography full of samples, lol.
This is actually a good example of f***ing over the little guy. Hip hop producers find unknown songs from much smaller artists, pay them to use the work and take credit. Believe me these hip hop producers are taking credit whether it be directly or indirectly.
Nobody reading credits. You have to go out of your way to do that, and everybody knows this.
S*** happens in every industry tbh & even today most producers have been using loops sent to them by composers that is the backbone of the songs without much or any credit & compensation
S*** happens in every industry tbh & even today most producers have been using loops sent to them by composers that is the backbone of the songs without much or any credit & compensation
You're right. Songwriters get f***ed over too.
Crine at you mentioning Ye when this dude whole discography full of samples, lol.
To be clear: f*** Kanye. I don't like the guy.
He did stop using samples so much around about 08. Perhaps he started back up. I don't listen to his new music.
I remember being young and uneducated and vilifying sampling
And then I realized that there is a significant difference in vibes that these two songs give off despite using similar instrumental portions in their respective songs
That’s the point of sampling imo
This is actually a good example of f***ing over the little guy. Hip hop producers find unknown songs from much smaller artists, pay them to use the work and take credit. Believe me these hip hop producers are taking credit whether it be directly or indirectly.
Nobody reading credits. You have to go out of your way to do that, and everybody knows this.
You keep saying that they arent giving credit, but you aren't explaining how they should properly give credit.
If crediting the artist and compensating them financially isn't giving credit then what is?
He did. 808s doesn't have many samples.
I don't really care anyway. Kanye isn't that good.
here's your quote
So, just having an ear for making it work is all the producer is meant to do as long as they get clearance
Dis this on stairway to heaven too
You keep saying that they arent giving credit, but you aren't explaining how they should properly give credit.
If crediting the artist and compensating them financially isn't giving credit then what is?
By not doing it. By creating their own music instead of relying on the music of others. Hip hop producers cannot do that though.
There is no way for a big artist to sample a smaller artist and not take credit for it all.