Wait so you're saying it has a very serious stance when it comes to alcohol? That changes the story then

I see what you're saying but cracking a few cold ones once in every 10 days is not really that bad imo

Wahhabism I don’t know much about aside from it being misconstrued to be the way of Imam Wahab as well It being predominantly Saudi movement that has been split into people who do mass Takfir and people who have a somewhat misunderstood Aqeedah

Salafiyyah was the response out of Egypt against Imperialism and is genuinely pure in its nature of placing the tenets of Tauheed first and basing their Aqeedah and Fiqh on the 1st Generation + the 3 after of Muslims.

It too has had some break apart within the movement that have corrupted ideologies though.

Harmful.

@voodoo fam what are your thoughts about sufism

Agreed they make the rest of us look backwards

Very important. Especially in today's society.

Although to some Sufism is a different strand altogether, the practice itself is very much rooted within Islam.

The Quranic term for sufism is tazkiyya. Just like other sciences within the Islamic tradition whether that's the science of Hadith, the science of Qur'an there's also the the science of the soul (tazkiyya/tassawuf).

That basically entails that you clean yourself by fighting against your desires (gluttony, excessive sleep, idle occupations) and against the characteristics of the wild beast in you: negativity, anger, fighting, aggressiveness. Subsequently trying to get rid of the evil habits of your ego: arrogance, pride, envy, vengeance, greed and all the other afflictions and sickness of the body and of the heart.

the girl I’m talking to thinks music is haram

cause it is Akhi

I was never taught that I was always told that it’s only a sin when you let it interfere with your duties as a Muslim but inform me

"And of the people is he who buys the amusement of speech to mislead others from the way of Allah without knowledge and who takes it in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment.” Surah Luqmaan 31:6

Al Hasan Al Basari narrates, in Tafseer Ibn Katheer 3/451, that this Ayah's revelation concerns the use of musical instruments, and singing.

"And incite to senselessness whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion." Surah Isra 17:64

It is narrated that Mujaahid (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice” – his voice the voice of Iblees is singing and falsehood.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This idaafah possessive or genitive construction, i.e., your voice serves to make the meaning specific, as with the phrases translated as “your cavalry” and “your infantry” later in the same aayah. Everyone who speaks in any way that is not obedient to Allaah, everyone who blows into a flute or other woodwind instrument, or who plays any haraam kind of drum, this is the voice of the Shaytaan.

another take on the permissibility of music:

islamictextinstitute.co.za/music-azhar-fatwa

thanks fam

it is not.

Support your claim

tala al badaru alayna

Stop coming at me with contrary statements without proofs and evidence

u had no proof

Nasheed is not haram I agree

Did u miss my paragraphs above akh

Music isnt haram. Give me proof.

yes i believe i did

this is an interpretation. I don't interpret the verses in the same way.

If u examine the lyricism behind the mainstream music most Muslims brothers and sisters are defending, it leaves you in awe