The slide started around Views/More Life. By CLB they were calling any random bullshit he dropped classic

ABSOLUTELY.

we know

yea they a lil delulu as well but the whole "calling an album classic within a year of release" s*** is applicable to every stanbase and indicative of a larger problem w music discussion

but for how divisive a work it was, at least big steppers saw kendrick challenging himself (re: subject matter) as a rap persona whereas iceman just felt like more of the same/70 minutes of anti-introspection cope over trendy yet uninspired production. disagree about gnx nor do i think lyrical dexterity was the sole intent of said album

Half of those projects if not more are from artists of the previous gen anyways, not even new cats, 2-3 Drake albums, future, Hov

Which kind of brings up what @retro_77 made a thread on how people still expect rappers who’ve been in the game 10+ to carry the game like their newcomers and still get some of the blame when mainstream is “flopping”

And even something like Die Lit didn’t even sell “well” in comparison to other hot albums out, most of that hype came post its release as carti’s cult following grew

Absolutely generational projects were released from 2008-2015 but let’s not act like

a) everything was timeless

b) GKMC and MBDTF were the average examples of what we’re trying to describe

Exactly

I’m not denying that but the dudes post is like “why hasn’t anyone topped illmatic?”

Every single album in this post is better than every album mentioned in OP btw

Bro said the best movies are Jurassic Park and Star Wars and nobody else had the sauce back then

While GNX and Iceman are both highly contextual records that came from a specific set of circumstances, hypothetically if you made a grid like that for the best rap albums of 2015-2016, there would be no room available for either of them. They aren't that good.

Bad bunny album >>>>>>>>>> chance >>>> iceman

Only two projects he mentioned aren't from artists of that actual decade

444 and Undun, maybe 3 if you count Lupe

Def not half

Nah

Return of 4Eva
Live.Love.ASAP
Acid Rap
Cilvia Demo
Blank Face
Yeezus, WTT, Kids See Ghosts
Daytona
Teflon Don
Rare Chandeliers
The Waters
Dreamchasers 2
Ambition

Etc.

Tribe

"It's been long enough, WEEE are taking d***... in our ass"
Drake stans in 2027

crying these are all basura

Where is the lyric dropoff when you have stuff like Whaccked Out Murals, Man of the Garden, Reincarnated, Heart 6 and Gloria that are "traditional" Rappiy Kendrick then Hey Now and TV Off which is stunting while barring up

Then Squabble Up, Luther & Dodger which are obviously street, Radio & cookout singles

Or are you one of the those people that still don't know that ish like "bing bop boom", "peekaboo" and "turn his TV off" are literally Weston Coast slang, or even worst, one of those people that think Kendrick can never make a more relaxed song even tho every album of his literally a quart to half of it have always had those songs even on his most heavy projects TPAB, UU & MMBS

• And yeah MMBS isn't a legit classic, although I do think it's overall good and has been getting received even better in retrospect, and GNX is still to early although it will prob be Cult classic at the least and has the stats and impact for reg classic status - just have to see how it holds up in quality and talks over time a few more years

He should've had Lil Yachty write GNX. We're all in agreement there.

gnx and dtmf?

buggin

Oh my fault that one didn't register in my head since it was the only one not capitalized

Overall point of mine still stands tho imo, and there's way more projects than those that were gigantic and impactful of era and a good amount of them that still are

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