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  • Jan 27, 2023
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    Niggamortis

    "but what happens when a program has the same skill set as you? what’s your value?"

    That's exactly why people don't want this s***.

    so why don’t you go boycott self checkout at grocery markets while you’re at it

  • Jan 27, 2023
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Imagine these AI artists become public stock options to invest in. Can make money off an AI artist based on their success like A&Rs do

    ktt2.com/music-predictions-for-the-next-510-years-32541770/2#post-41078695

    ai music. very polarizing. probably strong generational divides.

    • ghostsingers/ghostrappers are a thing (by 2024)
    • we get a lot of new music from a lot of artists without the artists' involvement (or knowledge in a lot of cases). artists get screwed.
    • major polarization. a lot of artists/fans argue about what real music is, a.i. doesn't have a soul etc.
    • some artists initially embrace it. other artists pull their music from streaming platforms in protest (the ones who can anyway)
    • labels license music to tech companies to train ai's to generate music with, or develop their own in house ai. either way, streaming platforms develop their own without labels due to label demands and licensing agreements
    • lots of litigation

    • streaming platforms offer music generated on the fly and tailored to your exact tastes (and current mood etc).
    • the dsp market probably looks different than spotify vs apple music by this point. an ai-first platform that doesn't exist today could have spotify level marketshare in 3-5 years.
    • live human/ai hybrid acts become a thing. live music w/ real people also gets a boost. also small gatherings of people creating music together (with/without ai-assisted instruments/tools) idk.
    • gen alpha and a lot of casual listeners dgaf who/what made the music they're listening to

    • people can eventually create their own virtual artists, just choose a few options and tap a few buttons. the artists have their own recognizable style, a back story, an image, etc. some people get really into this, kinda like gaming, exploring and interacting with the generated artists' worlds.
    • there's a niche of people who almost exclusively listen to artists created and shared by others and arent really interested in human artists. the most popular ones monetize, make deals with streaming platforms, etc. s*** looks weird as hell.

    none of this is happening in a vacuum ofc — ai becomes the biggest political issue, especially since it's affecting middle class skilled and highly paid jobs previously thought safe from automation. the political and legislative responses are too unpredictable so anything could happen.


    tldr,,, scary dystopian ai music future

  • Jan 27, 2023
    MVP Pinhead

    so why don’t you go boycott self checkout at grocery markets while you’re at it

    username

  • Jan 27, 2023
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    krishna bound

    between the tools that exist between like deepfakes + AI bootlegs are gonna flood the market

    you can basically do (for example):
    AI-generated lyrics w// like "generate in the style of kendrick lamar"
    deepfake kendrick voice
    ai-generated music, just make the prompt vaguely kendrick-related

    throw those together and you basically bootleg an entire person's career

    nvm ai generated lyrics got some work to do

  • Jan 27, 2023
    MVP Pinhead

    AI is here. It’s not going away.

    writing it off and not being open to its advantages is only gonna get your ass left behind

    at the end of the day it’s another tool that’s going to advance the field

    what was painting originally used for? to record historical moments exactly as they happened

    then the camera was invented in the early 1800s and the profession of painting no longer relied on accurate photorealistic works of art

    it was this invention of the camera that allowed artists to free their minds and truly dive into surrealism and abstraction with their paintings



    AI will do the same for art, graphic design, music, ext. It will become a tool that will allow artists to experiment differently and advance their process

    https://twitter.com/_erichu/status/1606826977473732608

    The only “artists” afraid of AI are those who’s skill set is more reliant on technical ability instead of creativity

    Granted what is creativity other than mixing together other ideas with some polish? It's just lateral thinking with some shoe shine to me.

    Pretty sure an AI could figure that out, they always call you crazy until you get proven wrong.

  • krishna bound

    doesnt seem its publicly available, theyre selective with who they give the tech to. apparently Arca did somethign with them too

    you can hear that and see the other projects on their site
    bronze.ai

  • Jan 27, 2023
    sco

    https://ktt2.com/music-predictions-for-the-next-510-years-32541770/2#post-41078695

    ai music. very polarizing. probably strong generational divides.

    • ghostsingers/ghostrappers are a thing (by 2024)
    • we get a lot of new music from a lot of artists without the artists' involvement (or knowledge in a lot of cases). artists get screwed.
    • major polarization. a lot of artists/fans argue about what real music is, a.i. doesn't have a soul etc.
    • some artists initially embrace it. other artists pull their music from streaming platforms in protest (the ones who can anyway)
    • labels license music to tech companies to train ai's to generate music with, or develop their own in house ai. either way, streaming platforms develop their own without labels due to label demands and licensing agreements
    • lots of litigation

    • streaming platforms offer music generated on the fly and tailored to your exact tastes (and current mood etc).
    • the dsp market probably looks different than spotify vs apple music by this point. an ai-first platform that doesn't exist today could have spotify level marketshare in 3-5 years.
    • live human/ai hybrid acts become a thing. live music w/ real people also gets a boost. also small gatherings of people creating music together (with/without ai-assisted instruments/tools) idk.
    • gen alpha and a lot of casual listeners dgaf who/what made the music they're listening to

    • people can eventually create their own virtual artists, just choose a few options and tap a few buttons. the artists have their own recognizable style, a back story, an image, etc. some people get really into this, kinda like gaming, exploring and interacting with the generated artists' worlds.
    • there's a niche of people who almost exclusively listen to artists created and shared by others and arent really interested in human artists. the most popular ones monetize, make deals with streaming platforms, etc. s*** looks weird as hell.

    none of this is happening in a vacuum ofc — ai becomes the biggest political issue, especially since it's affecting middle class skilled and highly paid jobs previously thought safe from automation. the political and legislative responses are too unpredictable so anything could happen.


    tldr,,, scary dystopian ai music future

    Scary to think about

  • Jan 27, 2023
    krishna bound

    nvm ai generated lyrics got some work to do


  • F*** capitalism

  • Jan 27, 2023
    XCX Spice

    we need AI mixing and mastering now

    Already in effect, iZotope's Neutron

  • Jan 27, 2023
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    MVP Pinhead

    It’s not off base at all

    those painters did not become the photographers. they kept painting. and the art of painting evolved because of the elimination of a task they had to do that we thought was necessary

    you should do more research on AI. imagine what true producers will be able to do with these programs

    The problem is if the AI becomes advanced enough then humans either won’t have to do anything or only have to do very little to create a song.

    It’s different from skilled producers using different technological advancements in the music world to achieve the sound they want, because they still have to create it themselves. The more advanced this AI becomes, the less humans have to do

  • krishna bound

    nvm ai generated lyrics got some work to do

    Sugarhill Gang type bars

  • Jan 27, 2023

    Wont get my hopes up but I really hope all this s*** gets regulated somehow

  • Jan 27, 2023

    Man, I'm tired

  • Jan 27, 2023
    shaleirose

    The problem is if the AI becomes advanced enough then humans either won’t have to do anything or only have to do very little to create a song.

    It’s different from skilled producers using different technological advancements in the music world to achieve the sound they want, because they still have to create it themselves. The more advanced this AI becomes, the less humans have to do

    i think the real question is about the complexity of AI relative to human emotion. its impressive to generate something already, but there's still a gap currently between the quality or complexity of AI-generated art, text, or music vs actual artists. While I'm not saying it's impossible for it to get to that point, the subjectivity of art does make it hard to imagine how AI would be trained to do certain things (i.e. poetry) without simply directly plagiarizing someone. Ethically it does bring up the argument "well irl people are inspired by each other too, so wouldn't AI just be doing that?" but i think the question would end up being whether AI can generate something unique enough based on reference vs simply repeating out variations of its learning materials. Like art & music are currently impressive - to a degree - but if you look at the text from GPT i've put above on this page, it's terrible. It's great for formalized explanations/essays but if you ask it to do songwriting, poems, etc. it becomes obvious how stiff its generation abilities are.

  • AR15 💯
    Jan 27, 2023

    Hope ai can give me head one day, the futures so exciting.

  • Jan 27, 2023
    krishna bound

    nvm ai generated lyrics got some work to do

    lmaooooooo

  • Jan 27, 2023

    FEEL LIKE WE BEEN GETTING ALOT OF AI NEWS LATELY

  • Jan 27, 2023
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    I’VE HAD A CONCEPT IN MY HEAD ABOUT AN AI WHERE YOU COULD REFERENCE SPECIFIC ALBUMS/SONGS TO MAKE MUSIC

    EXAMPLE:

    SOMEONE ENTES “MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY MIXED WITH HOUSE OF BALLOONS WITH AN ECLECTIC SAMPLE”

    AND THE AI SPITS OUT A BEAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT

    REMINDS ME OF IN THE COMPLEX ARTICLE COVERING KANYE RECORDING MBDTF IN HAWAII AND HE SAID HE HEARS BEATS IN HIS HEAD THAT SOUND LIKE 808s & HEARTBREAK MELODIES WITH MOBB DEEP DRUMS

    WOULD BE SO HARD IF YOU COULD TYPE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO AN AI

  • Jan 27, 2023

    AI is taking over

    It’s the end of times

  • Jan 27, 2023
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    lnstinct

    Yes but what distinction do u make for “human” art

    The tools people use now are like ai compared to earlier anyway

    I guess u mean pure physical art?

    No I still there even if ai helps humans there’s a distinct point where digital art or music crosses over from being entirely generated by the ai with little to no human input. If it no longer feels like the art is a reflection of the artist’s vision it no longer feels human. A text prompt isn’t enough input. Too much is automated away. None of the music in op feels human. While I would still consider Holly Herndon’s music that contains ai elements to be a reflection of her vision. I think effort matters too but it’s hard to know where to draw the line. Intention matters

    But I do see what you mean. The line is blurred

  • Jan 27, 2023
    GIO GIO

    No I still there even if ai helps humans there’s a distinct point where digital art or music crosses over from being entirely generated by the ai with little to no human input. If it no longer feels like the art is a reflection of the artist’s vision it no longer feels human. A text prompt isn’t enough input. Too much is automated away. None of the music in op feels human. While I would still consider Holly Herndon’s music that contains ai elements to be a reflection of her vision. I think effort matters too but it’s hard to know where to draw the line. Intention matters

    But I do see what you mean. The line is blurred

    Yeah & with the advancement of things it will be even harder to differentiate how much input the artist has

  • Ezio 🎰
    Jan 27, 2023
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    krishna bound

    wasn't Jai Paul working on something like this a long time ago where like you could upload stems and it would auto-master/mix it and he used jasmine as proof of concept?

    jAI paul

    Won't tell what the j stands for I don't wanna be banned

    Remember the conspiracies that dude didn't exist and was a way for labels to release music

  • Ezio 🎰
    Jan 27, 2023
    BLACKPOPSTAR

    I’VE HAD A CONCEPT IN MY HEAD ABOUT AN AI WHERE YOU COULD REFERENCE SPECIFIC ALBUMS/SONGS TO MAKE MUSIC

    EXAMPLE:

    SOMEONE ENTES “MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY MIXED WITH HOUSE OF BALLOONS WITH AN ECLECTIC SAMPLE”

    AND THE AI SPITS OUT A BEAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT

    REMINDS ME OF IN THE COMPLEX ARTICLE COVERING KANYE RECORDING MBDTF IN HAWAII AND HE SAID HE HEARS BEATS IN HIS HEAD THAT SOUND LIKE 808s & HEARTBREAK MELODIES WITH MOBB DEEP DRUMS

    WOULD BE SO HARD IF YOU COULD TYPE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO AN AI

    Because of the advent of type beats this is going to be really easy to mimic

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