i don’t think you understand trav wasn’t even touching 200 without bundles lol

Kendrick last album sold 600k+ fw went triple plat in a year. It's probably 4-5x platinum by now.

Post has 2 5x plat albums and does better numbers than Bundle Scott.

Travis is not big 3 try again

Astroworld isnt even selling more than curtain calls by eminem in 2021

that was astro, i have a feeling he could easily do 200k with Utopia, this era has been him proving his mainstream reach

yea for sure, i was just talking astro. i can see him selling 200-250 now with no bundles. the last few singles flopped pretty hard it seems as if he’s struggling to find that one

if j cole can do 280-310k with barely any rollout trav can do 400k, lets come back to this when Utopia drops

Travis pre Astro world is not the same artist as Travis now. He’s grown a lot

Also if you take away bundles he did like 260

travis cant do 400k without bundles and a huge rollout + a big song with someone like cardi or drake. He doesnt have the juice like that.

im not betting anything but ill take the over and you guys can take the under, willing to bet trav gunna do alternate covers and vinyls and s*** like that which still counts, he'll do 400k

which is why i said "without"

If Travis drops on friday this week hes not doing 400k.

ok then yea we agree, but i dont think trav would do a surprise drop, only time hes ever done that was HJJH and look how that turned out

It depends on the rollout and how many people f*** with the album. At the very least he’ll be within 50k of it. He’s in that class of artists

You’re underestimating how much he’s grown as a brand and household name

i hate yall niggas lol.

Doesnt matter because he doesnt have that same built up cultlike following rappers like J Cole kendrick and drake have. That's why I said "without" other factors. If he gives us a surprise drop, he isnt doing 400k and he's more than likely doing less than Cole. If he does a rollout i wouldnt be surprised if he does like 500k but a lot of rappers/artists have that capability in this era

the worst type of rap listeners on full display in this thread folks lol.

Trav definitely does have a cultlike following

That’s why I’m saying you’re underestimating him.

I said it earlier itt but we gotta really talk about how Cole is doing lil Uzi numbers.

And Uzi dropped at the beginning of quarantine

It's not built up like drake kendrick and coles.

It’s crazy when you think about it. It’s clear Cole ain’t the third biggest rapper out anymore

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Something to be said about him selling a 100k less than KOD.