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  • May 6, 2020
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    Buryly

    Lupe did it before?

    Elaborate

    From an interview with Pitchfork in 2006:

    Pitchfork: I read this interview with David Banner a year ago where he was saying that Southern rap sounds different from New York rap because people listen to it in cars. That's how they experience it, so the levels of bass matters. The version of your album that leaked is the first rap album I've heard that I would call an iPod album. The way it sounds, it seems more geared toward close listening, and sound-wise it's soothing in these weird and interesting ways. It's more intimate, the way you use your voice on the beats and the kinds of beats that you use.

    LF: Well, when I write, it's intimate. I write in the car, and I don't even hear, like, ambulances driving past me because I'm in my car, listening to the music, writing. I record in an attic with no booth. It's not like I'm in the dark with candles, but it's like a house, a home, and I record like that. I think that plays into the music. I always want landscapes that are not too, like, warrrrng! The stuff that I make and the things that I talk about, you have to listen, so if the beat is doing too much, it's going to take you away. If the hook is too distracting, it's going to take you away. The hook just needs to be enough to get you from one verse to the next. And they actually mixed my album with the beat all the way in the back.

    But the music is in the back and the vocals are on top because it's listening music. Like, I love jazz. So to me, there are two main types of jazz. There's dancing jazz, and then there's listening jazz. Listening jazz is like Thelonius Monk or John Coltrane, where it's a listening experience. So that's what I like; I like to make stuff that you listen to. It's not really meant to get you up; it's meant to get your mind focused. That's why you sit and listen to jazz. You dance to big band or whatever, but for the most part, you sit and listen to jazz. I think it comes from that aesthetic, trying to take that jazz listening experience and put it on hip-hop. I really don't like hip-hop like that, that much. So I can strip down basic principles of certain things and apply it to everything else. And that keeps you interested, changing the art form, making it more avant-garde. Because I can't play any instruments.

  • May 6, 2020
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    Buryly

    Tbh none of his image comes off as forced to me


    He literally got tired of being told to portray the rapper image deemed marketable after this moment here.

  • May 6, 2020
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    Kdogone


    He literally got tired of being told to portray the rapper image deemed marketable after this moment here.

    Forgot about that

  • May 6, 2020
    flizzy

    From an interview with Pitchfork in 2006:

    Pitchfork: I read this interview with David Banner a year ago where he was saying that Southern rap sounds different from New York rap because people listen to it in cars. That's how they experience it, so the levels of bass matters. The version of your album that leaked is the first rap album I've heard that I would call an iPod album. The way it sounds, it seems more geared toward close listening, and sound-wise it's soothing in these weird and interesting ways. It's more intimate, the way you use your voice on the beats and the kinds of beats that you use.

    LF: Well, when I write, it's intimate. I write in the car, and I don't even hear, like, ambulances driving past me because I'm in my car, listening to the music, writing. I record in an attic with no booth. It's not like I'm in the dark with candles, but it's like a house, a home, and I record like that. I think that plays into the music. I always want landscapes that are not too, like, warrrrng! The stuff that I make and the things that I talk about, you have to listen, so if the beat is doing too much, it's going to take you away. If the hook is too distracting, it's going to take you away. The hook just needs to be enough to get you from one verse to the next. And they actually mixed my album with the beat all the way in the back.

    But the music is in the back and the vocals are on top because it's listening music. Like, I love jazz. So to me, there are two main types of jazz. There's dancing jazz, and then there's listening jazz. Listening jazz is like Thelonius Monk or John Coltrane, where it's a listening experience. So that's what I like; I like to make stuff that you listen to. It's not really meant to get you up; it's meant to get your mind focused. That's why you sit and listen to jazz. You dance to big band or whatever, but for the most part, you sit and listen to jazz. I think it comes from that aesthetic, trying to take that jazz listening experience and put it on hip-hop. I really don't like hip-hop like that, that much. So I can strip down basic principles of certain things and apply it to everything else. And that keeps you interested, changing the art form, making it more avant-garde. Because I can't play any instruments.

    Eh he mainly talks about the mixing style, not mastering really. Crazy to think both F&L and FHD are similar in many ways

  • May 6, 2020

    J Cole been one of the realest I see nothing but facts.

  • May 6, 2020
    Kdogone


    He literally got tired of being told to portray the rapper image deemed marketable after this moment here.

    wild how this was at the same show

  • May 6, 2020
    Buryly

    Forgot about that

    That seriously was the breaking point, Cole’s manager/Dreamville’s president Ib talked about it

  • May 6, 2020
    flizzy

    From an interview with Pitchfork in 2006:

    Pitchfork: I read this interview with David Banner a year ago where he was saying that Southern rap sounds different from New York rap because people listen to it in cars. That's how they experience it, so the levels of bass matters. The version of your album that leaked is the first rap album I've heard that I would call an iPod album. The way it sounds, it seems more geared toward close listening, and sound-wise it's soothing in these weird and interesting ways. It's more intimate, the way you use your voice on the beats and the kinds of beats that you use.

    LF: Well, when I write, it's intimate. I write in the car, and I don't even hear, like, ambulances driving past me because I'm in my car, listening to the music, writing. I record in an attic with no booth. It's not like I'm in the dark with candles, but it's like a house, a home, and I record like that. I think that plays into the music. I always want landscapes that are not too, like, warrrrng! The stuff that I make and the things that I talk about, you have to listen, so if the beat is doing too much, it's going to take you away. If the hook is too distracting, it's going to take you away. The hook just needs to be enough to get you from one verse to the next. And they actually mixed my album with the beat all the way in the back.

    But the music is in the back and the vocals are on top because it's listening music. Like, I love jazz. So to me, there are two main types of jazz. There's dancing jazz, and then there's listening jazz. Listening jazz is like Thelonius Monk or John Coltrane, where it's a listening experience. So that's what I like; I like to make stuff that you listen to. It's not really meant to get you up; it's meant to get your mind focused. That's why you sit and listen to jazz. You dance to big band or whatever, but for the most part, you sit and listen to jazz. I think it comes from that aesthetic, trying to take that jazz listening experience and put it on hip-hop. I really don't like hip-hop like that, that much. So I can strip down basic principles of certain things and apply it to everything else. And that keeps you interested, changing the art form, making it more avant-garde. Because I can't play any instruments.

    different than

    npr.org/sections/microphonecheck/2014/12/12/370148449/j-cole-it-aint-enough-of-us-trying

    ^ Search for "loudness", it's near the top

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

  • May 6, 2020
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    Stan Smith

    Didn’t Mask Off go #1 or some s***? But yeah taking a staunch approach against d*** abuse was the norm at the time. Not the songs upon songs from top rappers talking about pills and lean lol.

    You realize people listen to d*** music and are still against d****, right?

  • May 6, 2020
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    Plankton

    You realize people listen to d*** music and are still against d****, right?

    Not everybody.

  • May 6, 2020
    Swz3000

    Personally think the opposite, always got the impression he made a conscious decision to become a woke rapper, and literally changed his whole vibe (hair, clothes, lyrics etc) to fit that image from a brand / marketing POV, because it became a viable route for money making.

    Probably being too harsh cos he has obviously done real things to support some causes but still

    His content, if anything, got more ratchet.

  • May 6, 2020

    he’s boring

  • May 6, 2020
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    If only he could make great albums

  • May 6, 2020
    Jim Halpert

    If only he could make great albums

  • May 6, 2020
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    Jim Halpert

    If only he could make great albums

    I hope The Fall Off will be his first great album

  • May 6, 2020
    Stan Smith

    Not everybody.

    No s*** not everybody but most people

  • May 6, 2020
    Jim Halpert

    If only he could make great albums

  • May 6, 2020
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    Buryly

    I hope The Fall Off will be his first great album

    i have had this hope for all of his projects

    i cant believe i still have hope

    i dont think the fall off exists though. but im a skeptic. i dont believe in things until they have a release date

  • May 6, 2020
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    Jim Halpert

    i have had this hope for all of his projects

    i cant believe i still have hope

    i dont think the fall off exists though. but im a skeptic. i dont believe in things until they have a release date

    He implied The Fall Off will be coming out this fall considering the election theme he previewed and FNL's 10-year anniversary is coming up too. He came close with FHD and while I like that album, feel there's something missing that makes it fall short

  • May 6, 2020

    a very good rapper with a horrible discography, also made a lot of s***ty decisions during his career (producing and performing all his albums only by himself dissing kanye and soundcloud rappers, being anoldhead, talking like hes the goat). luckily he turned this around and started making trap music (kinda sellout tbh). amazing feats tho.

  • May 6, 2020
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    Buryly

    He implied The Fall Off will be coming out this fall considering the election theme he previewed and FNL's 10-year anniversary is coming up too. He came close with FHD and while I like that album, feel there's something missing that makes it fall short

    FHD is fine and i guess his best work. But you cant have stuff like wet dreamz and then on a very heartfelt and almost great song say things like "give a virgin the urge to rape me"

    he is king of shooting himself in the foot

  • May 6, 2020
    Jim Halpert

    FHD is fine and i guess his best work. But you cant have stuff like wet dreamz and then on a very heartfelt and almost great song say things like "give a virgin the urge to rape me"

    he is king of shooting himself in the foot

    Lowkey The Fall Off is his final chance to prove himself to me, if he drops the ball with this one then I won't really be eager to check out his future projects