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  • May 21, 2021
    uhh

    i think it's easy to be super reductive and frame it this way but for me it just comes down to sonics and what's interesting to listen to. cole is a good rapper but that's kinda where it stops. like you can always count on him to kill a feature but he will never be able to carry a whole classic project like these other dudes that everybody wants to put him next to

  • May 21, 2021

    The white people itt hating on Cole make we want to listen to him more

  • May 21, 2021
    EchiPantheress

    OP's life must be a movie compared to Cole

    Sure is

  • May 21, 2021

    White ppl racism jump out fast af when u not acting like they expect...like all melanated ppl are a monolith or something lmao

  • Hi-C 🦌
    May 21, 2021
    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Ktt only rap that’s super weird or street s***. If you not experimenting heavily or talking about opps you’re boring.

    Okay I f*** with you of course but it is funny that you probably the only person on this forum holding DaBaby down on the regular who basically fits exactly into that latter category

  • Hi-C 🦌
    May 21, 2021
    93BossFight

    I dare someone to come up with a good refute to this. You can’t. I’m tired of the boring hood adjacent HBCU alumni raps albums.

    I like Cole for the most part but the HBCU alumni s*** is way too f***ing funny LMAO

  • May 21, 2021
    Innocent

    How do you feel about rappers like Common @op

    Absolutely love Common. Be changed my life at 10 years old (don’t y’all dare put a flat top on me)

  • May 21, 2021

    Cole graduated college, f***ed Rev Run daughter, got signed by Jay, makes the majority of his own beats, went platinum multiple times over, beat up Diddy, and is playing pro ball overseas fym he boring bro living the life lmao

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    yall let @op bait yall into a 15 page thread. Yall should be ashamed of yallselves lol.

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    You knew this Nigga personally? Lol stfu

  • May 21, 2021
    insertcoolnamehere

    yall let @op bait yall into a 15 page thread. Yall should be ashamed of yallselves lol.

    Bait?

    Bro this is my second thread, I don’t spend my life on here like y’all lol

  • May 21, 2021
    SylIables

    You knew this Nigga personally? Lol stfu

    This. Especially when he did bring up a lot of interesting experiences in his music lol

  • May 21, 2021
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    Oblivion X

    And for griselda they been rinse and repeating their sound with their latest projects, which is something ya would kill cole for

    Ehh not really if anything Benny been tryna force mainstream collabs with dudes like Jim Jones and he’s been getting clowned for it

    And I don’t think Conway newer stuff has been well received either

  • May 21, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Ehh not really if anything Benny been tryna force mainstream collabs with dudes like Jim Jones and he’s been getting clowned for it

    And I don’t think Conway newer stuff has been well received either

    Jim Jones ain't mainstream it's not 2005

  • May 21, 2021
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    Goo

    Jim Jones ain't mainstream it's not 2005

    He’s more mainstream than Benny ever was lmao and he’s more instantly recognizable

  • May 21, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    He’s more mainstream than Benny ever was lmao and he’s more instantly recognizable

    He occupies the same lane as guys like Griselda, works with the same producers and has the same amount of monthly listeners

  • May 21, 2021
    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Ktt only rap that’s super weird or street s***. If you not experimenting heavily or talking about opps you’re boring.

  • May 21, 2021
    Saint Aquinas

    yeah man living a decent life as a black man is uninteresting so the music is boring to non blacks and suburbanites. I totally get it. rap is about d****, calling women b****es, shooting black folk, f*** 12, and allat other real nigga s***. That's interesting af

  • May 21, 2021
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    Goo

    He occupies the same lane as guys like Griselda, works with the same producers and has the same amount of monthly listeners

    And still had more mainstream success. If you wanna say he’s not popular now then that’s fine, but my point still stands

  • May 21, 2021
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    Rap forums have become so polarizing in the past few years that discussions like this aren't even as good as they used to be.

    Everybody's either GOAT or trash now. No in between. There's no room for rappers who are simply above average or who just rap about everyday life anymore.

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    SegaDreamFlash

    And still had more mainstream success. If you wanna say he’s not popular now then that’s fine, but my point still stands

    I don't see why someone would clown on Benny for working with Jim

    The same dudes who stanned Dipset 15 years ago stan Griselda now

  • May 21, 2021
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    Bobby_96

    Rap forums have become so polarizing in the past few years that discussions like this aren't even as good as they used to be.

    Everybody's either GOAT or trash now. No in between. There's no room for rappers who are simply above average or who just rap about everyday life anymore.

    Idk KTT has been saying the same s*** about Cole for a decade now and even recycles the same jokes

    Like the HBCU joke, I've heard that a million times. Surprised some ppl found it funny @BigDckBandit

  • May 21, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Ehh not really if anything Benny been tryna force mainstream collabs with dudes like Jim Jones and he’s been getting clowned for it

    And I don’t think Conway newer stuff has been well received either

    Jim jones isn't that mainstream anymore tho. Benny has been tryna move to a more mainstream so I'll give u that. But at the same time his fans have been wanting him to go back to and rehash the tt3 sound.

    And conway project was only killed cause it just wasn't all that, same thing with fly god 2. But people love pray 4 paris and fktg (which is a lil more modern) but it's not like there's some crazy sonic progression with those projects compared to their older ones, which is something that cole actively gets killed for doing

  • May 21, 2021
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    Goo

    I don't see why someone would clown on Benny for working with Jim

    The same dudes who stanned Dipset 15 years ago stan Griselda now

    You could say they occupy the same lane but that ain’t entirely true, Griselda and Dipset have similarities but I can’t see dudes in Dipset making songs with dudes like Mach Hommy and them the same way I can’t see Benny making a song like We Fly High or emotionless.

    When Jimmy was popular he was doing songs with Trey Songz and had niggas like Young Dro on the We Fly High remix.

    Dipset had more mainstream appeal than Griselda, and dudes like WSG take the street rap but mix it with a high art approach. The way WSG branded Griselda and approached their whole aesthetic is entirely different than from how Cam did it with Dipset IMO.

    The main similarities they have is that they’re both from NY and rap about street s***, and even then WSG/ Griselda is from upstate NY and Cam/Dipset is from NYC. I’ve lived in both areas and even they’re different from one another

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