Jan 20·1 reply
thegreatdivineFair enough, but I still don't think the success of Cole's debut album changed anything. Labels still had some interference with the debut albums of new acts moving forward. Maybe not in terms of demanding a hit single beforehand, but they'd still keep their eye on things and make sure the product that was coming out was one they were confident in and in situations where they weren't fully confident, they'd still release the album, but it'd be undershipped (this happened with Logic's major label debut album, which dropped in 2014).
The game has always been that you do well enough on your debut and your future albums get less oversight and interference from the label.
I don't think there are many individual acts that can claim to change the status quo of the industry.
Less oversight I agree but there is still interference in later albums, the Clipse thing being a recent example.
- Jan 20·1 replySwayzomad
I don't think there are many individual acts that can claim to change the status quo of the industry.
Less oversight I agree but there is still interference in later albums, the Clipse thing being a recent example.
Yeah, trying to credit Cole for causing such a major change in major label exec behaviour is wild, especially at that time in his career.
The change I can credit him for is labels being more comfortable with rappers dropping entire albums with 0 singles/major promo beforehand. Cole did it December 2014 and then Drake did the same 2 months later.
Jan 20thegreatdivineYeah, trying to credit Cole for causing such a major change in major label exec behaviour is wild, especially at that time in his career.
The change I can credit him for is labels being more comfortable with rappers dropping entire albums with 0 singles/major promo beforehand. Cole did it December 2014 and then Drake did the same 2 months later.
tbh this aint cole this was Bey
- Jan 20
Jan 20·1 reply
Mr CarterThis nigga lived thru 2024 and said beef isn’t entertaining
Most the s*** you complained about is only something you dealt with if you spent the entire beef online
Lmfao the songs are posted on the f***ing internet 😂😂
Jan 20·1 replythegreatdivineFair enough, but I still don't think the success of Cole's debut album changed anything. Labels still had some interference with the debut albums of new acts moving forward. Maybe not in terms of demanding a hit single beforehand, but they'd still keep their eye on things and make sure the product that was coming out was one they were confident in and in situations where they weren't fully confident, they'd still release the album, but it'd be undershipped (this happened with Logic's major label debut album, which dropped in 2014).
The game has always been that you do well enough on your debut and your future albums get less oversight and interference from the label.
Again the change im referring to is that labels stop prioritizing a big major single as the end all be all of a release for an album. It still matter but labels ALSO realize that artist building a core fanbase is also important and stop prioritizing it.
- Jan 20·1 replyOblivion X
Again the change im referring to is that labels stop prioritizing a big major single as the end all be all of a release for an album. It still matter but labels ALSO realize that artist building a core fanbase is also important and stop prioritizing it.
how is that cole tho
- Jan 20https://twitter.com/i/status/2013601933978665369LickMyBalls
Cole?
him or bruno mars. only options
Jan 20·1 replyhttps://twitter.com/i/status/2013601933978665369LickMyBallsCole?
it was youngboy
- Jan 20DiamondsFlooded
it was youngboy
- Gosh 😹Jan 20·1 reply
Cole we need something on DSP's brother where you at
- Jan 20·1 replyv003
how is that cole tho
I explained it last page. CW didnt have a big single before it dropped but still sold 200k fw.
He built up a core fanbase and labels saw that and started implementing that. Label execs literally told cole and ib this lol
- Jan 20Oblivion X
I explained it last page. CW didnt have a big single before it dropped but still sold 200k fw.
He built up a core fanbase and labels saw that and started implementing that. Label execs literally told cole and ib this lol
interesting.Cole the most influential
Jan 20GoshCole we need something on DSP's brother where you at
I’m sure we getting something else this week
With this being a double album and a 4 week rollout there’s no way he doesn’t stay active till The Fall Off drops
Mount Spicemore 🌄Jan 20is 1985 still the intro
- Jan 20·2 replies
jadakiss jus said in todays podcast there will be a mixtape too and he spit over a couple lox tracks
- Gosh 😹Jan 20·1 replyoflo
jadakiss jus said in todays podcast there will be a mixtape too and he spit over a couple lox tracks
Need a clip of this
How could he drop a tape if the album is coming in two weeks, unless he means after?
- Jan 20·1 replyPreme55_
Lmfao the songs are posted on the f***ing internet 😂😂
There’s a difference between going on the internet to hear a song and spending time on forums/twitter/comment sections
- Jan 20·4 repliesGosh
Need a clip of this
How could he drop a tape if the album is coming in two weeks, unless he means after?
reddit.com/r/Jcole/comments/1qi7sq7/from_jadakiss_the_fall_off_and_a_mixtape_its_a_boy
i would guess dropping it next weds (his bday)
a mixtape of him over other peoples s*** a week before is not that crazy. plenty of artists have done this
- Jan 20oflo
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jcole/comments/1qi7sq7/from_jadakiss_the_fall_off_and_a_mixtape_its_a_boy/
i would guess dropping it next weds (his bday)
a mixtape of him over other peoples s*** a week before is not that crazy. plenty of artists have done this
- Jan 20·3 repliesoflo
jadakiss jus said in todays podcast there will be a mixtape too and he spit over a couple lox tracks
Kind of a shame Jada had to spoil the surprise, would’ve been a dope surprise drop
Too many people tryna get viral clips for their podcasts these days
- Jan 20·edited·1 replyMr Carter
Kind of a shame Jada had to spoil the surprise, would’ve been a dope surprise drop
Too many people tryna get viral clips for their podcasts these days
id take my f***ing verse off just for that
- Jan 20·1 replyv003· edited
id take my f***ing verse off just for that
Fr, my last album before retirement, meant to be my definitive classic and you f***ing up the rollout for clicks
Jan 20·1 replyoflohttps://www.reddit.com/r/Jcole/comments/1qi7sq7/from_jadakiss_the_fall_off_and_a_mixtape_its_a_boy/
i would guess dropping it next weds (his bday)
a mixtape of him over other peoples s*** a week before is not that crazy. plenty of artists have done this
I think it’s either what you said, or the mixtape is the first or second disc of the album
- Jan 20·1 replyMr Carter
Fr, my last album before retirement, meant to be my definitive classic and you f***ing up the rollout for clicks
well now that the s*** is out
i wonder if the mixtape will be included in the fall off vinyl, if thats why its 4 discs?
