Feb 15·1 reply
ryuHFHD so overrated to me lol
I mean I get why it’s hailed as a classic but I just don’t see how people feel like the rapping or production was just untoppably peak
This clears easily imo especially rap wise makes FHD raps seem like pre k lol
In most ways I prefer this, FNL and Off Season to FHD
Also an album being “consise” is overrated to me as well, just means it’s short and low on skips lol this is long and low on skips, I’ll take more music please lol
It's cus we're looking at the album as a whole. FHD his most musical albumor at least where the music and the rapping gel. Nothing on this new album comes close to Apparently or Love Yourz
- Feb 15·2 replies
WeezyFthuggathe story telling is more poignant on FHD even though the rapping on Fall-Off is technically better
That's it. Fall Off has better technical rapping. That's it though
Feb 15·1 replyryuHFHD so overrated to me lol
I mean I get why it’s hailed as a classic but I just don’t see how people feel like the rapping or production was just untoppably peak
This clears easily imo especially rap wise makes FHD raps seem like pre k lol
In most ways I prefer this, FNL and Off Season to FHD
Also an album being “consise” is overrated to me as well, just means it’s short and low on skips lol this is long and low on skips, I’ll take more music please lol
FHD production clears a lot on here. It has aged very well with the exception of maybe Hello. The album as a whole also has a heartfelt element in it that I just don't feel in TFO. That's why the singing and storytelling on there shine brighter, even if the raps aren't as good technically
Feb 15
Goat YujiAm I tripping or did he really go delete every single message people responded to? It’s a forum, tf wrong with some of you? lol
Feb 15·1 replyWeezyFthuggathen cocky?
-im so cool i influenced this guy who is now telling me how i changed his life at the gas station
-yes, please put on MY music videos to stop your baby crying
-everyone that wants to do smething negative should think of MEE and how IMA be dissaponted, not his father, but ME jcole the succesfull rapper
Feel like these are misreads of the respective songs lol
Quik stop for example isnt a "wow im so cool". It was about dealing with imposter syndrome and self doubt.
And Safety is written from the perspective of someone in Fayetteville telling him those things in a manner similar to STAN, not cole saying you gotta calm ur baby with my vids or don't do crime or I'll be disappointed in you
- Feb 15·1 replyWeezyFthugga
i see i see, im still not done going through the album honestly
im hearing you out ima listen again obviously
im just saying I showed my girl Quik Stop and How Much a Dollar Cost right after and she was just more moved by Kendrick’s storytelling and pacing
even though the rapping on Quik Stop is technically maybe better,
I think the rapping on How Much a Dollar Cost is way crazier than Quip Stop lmaoo I probably wouldn't have used that as an example Dot was outta here on that
But yeah you good bro enjoy the music I'm just here with my perspective chilling
Feb 15Oblivion XFeel like these are misreads of the respective songs lol
Quik stop for example isnt a "wow im so cool". It was about dealing with imposter syndrome and self doubt.
And Safety is written from the perspective of someone in Fayetteville telling him those things in a manner similar to STAN, not cole saying you gotta calm ur baby with my vids or don't do crime or I'll be disappointed in you
I'm honestly baffled someone could misread quik stop that way lmfao
- Feb 15·1 replyCRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
It's cus we're looking at the album as a whole. FHD his most musical albumor at least where the music and the rapping gel. Nothing on this new album comes close to Apparently or Love Yourz
Thats two songs bro
Also thats like Nas dropping an album and us being like "Nothing here is touching If I ruled the world and One Mic" lmaoo ofcourse not, thats a given
- Feb 15·2 repliesLaced
FHD production clears a lot on here. It has aged very well with the exception of maybe Hello. The album as a whole also has a heartfelt element in it that I just don't feel in TFO. That's why the singing and storytelling on there shine brighter, even if the raps aren't as good technically
I disagree
I think what you call "heartfelt" is really just youth and nostalgia
Nigga was in his 20s rapping that dealing with a whole different set of emotions and we was all young asf listening
But in terms of heartfelt material that honestly what I love most about this project. Tons of heartfelt stuff, just with grown man emotions. Man Up Above heartfelt asf and Life Sentence is super heartfelt, a genuine tribute to his wife, long overdue. Beautiful stuff
- Feb 15·1 replyCRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
That's it. Fall Off has better technical rapping. That's it though
Thats a big category though especially for an artist like J Cole where his rapping should be the selling point
This is a rappers rapper project. Like this for people who have actually rapped themselves at some point and took it serious enough to study the greats, decode flows and schemes etc and I'm definitely on that time. This is a hell of a performance from that perspective
Valentine 🦦Feb 15·1 replyryuHI disagree
I think what you call "heartfelt" is really just youth and nostalgia
Nigga was in his 20s rapping that dealing with a whole different set of emotions and we was all young asf listening
But in terms of heartfelt material that honestly what I love most about this project. Tons of heartfelt stuff, just with grown man emotions. Man Up Above heartfelt asf and Life Sentence is super heartfelt, a genuine tribute to his wife, long overdue. Beautiful stuff
idk FHD has many classic moments man. Fire Squad can challenge any song on The Fall-Off when it comes to perspective, technical ability, storytelling, hooks, chorus, beat transitions and the albums lose no pacing at all even when you add the new bonus songs. it actually expands the project to challenge The-Fall Off even more. keep Heaven dancing? winter wonderland? black man in Hollywood? die together?
Feb 15Dudes just loud and ignorant in here lol
- Feb 15·3 repliesValentine
idk FHD has many classic moments man. Fire Squad can challenge any song on The Fall-Off when it comes to perspective, technical ability, storytelling, hooks, chorus, beat transitions and the albums lose no pacing at all even when you add the new bonus songs. it actually expands the project to challenge The-Fall Off even more. keep Heaven dancing? winter wonderland? black man in Hollywood? die together?
I was with you at first but Fire Squad ain't touching any of the lyrical tracks on TFO, like not even close lol
- Feb 15ryuH
I was with you at first but Fire Squad ain't touching any of the lyrical tracks on TFO, like not even close lol
It really isn't close
- Valentine 🦦Feb 15·1 replyryuH
I was with you at first but Fire Squad ain't touching any of the lyrical tracks on TFO, like not even close lol
huh? are we hearing the same original key word, alliterations in the flows on this album? 50% of the fall-off is sample flows and songs we’ve heard before lmfao. like that’s awesome and a skill, but it’s a reason FHD a classic lol
My inhibition's fightin' my intuition
Premature premonition, showin' me the demolition
Of these phony niggas, so ahead of my time
Even when I rhyme about the future I be reminiscin'
You want the truth? Well, come and listen
I'm like that time you bagged a dime and checked your phone and saw it was a number missin'
As fate passes you by, half of you try
The other half of you fried, too high to actually fly
One day y'all have to decide, who you gon' be
A scary nigga or a nigga that's gon' rule like me - Feb 15
One thing is for sure no matter which you prefer Cole has blessed us with alot of good s***
FNL
FHD especially now with the expansion
The Off Season
and now TFOreally great hip-hop all classic s***, Even if you think TFO his 2nd 3rd or even 4th best (Its 1st for me, over everything) Cole solidified his catalog with this no doubt, especially with the Blizzard tape as well gahd damn
Earned a position in my top 10 with this s*** (he was top 15 for me before this)
- Feb 15·1 replyValentine
huh? are we hearing the same original key word, alliterations in the flows on this album? 50% of the fall-off is sample flows and songs we’ve heard before lmfao. like that’s awesome and a skill, but it’s a reason FHD a classic lol
My inhibition's fightin' my intuition
Premature premonition, showin' me the demolition
Of these phony niggas, so ahead of my time
Even when I rhyme about the future I be reminiscin'
You want the truth? Well, come and listen
I'm like that time you bagged a dime and checked your phone and saw it was a number missin'
As fate passes you by, half of you try
The other half of you fried, too high to actually fly
One day y'all have to decide, who you gon' be
A scary nigga or a nigga that's gon' rule like meI know the lyrics to fire squad gang
The fact that you feel that this quote stands a chance to what he's doing on TFO either means you ain't fully digest it yet or you're gauge of skilled rapping is questionable
My dawg he rapped his whole life in reverse while rhyming each end of every bar with the word reverse on here, stop it lol
- Feb 15ryuH
Thats two songs bro
Also thats like Nas dropping an album and us being like "Nothing here is touching If I ruled the world and One Mic" lmaoo ofcourse not, thats a given
Two songs better than a whole double album. Also helps the album is better too
- Valentine 🦦Feb 15ryuH
I know the lyrics to fire squad gang
The fact that you feel that this quote stands a chance to what he's doing on TFO either means you ain't fully digest it yet or you're gauge of skilled rapping is questionable
My dawg he rapped his whole life in reverse while rhyming each end of every bar with the word reverse on here, stop it lol
I mean yea, reading the lyrics it sounds like he’s doing something simple but if you know the song then you know the skill it took to spit that lmfao
add on to that it’s an original flow of his is and perspective is the take home point as to why that album stands apart from The Fall-Off where most the album is sampling elements of the past and Cole said Disc 2 was a rushed process compared to Disc 1. all these details add on to the quality of The Fall-Off being there, but being able to asses why it don’t hit like FHD is fair
- Feb 15Cole World
The bots still in here s***ting it up
Still at it... villematic
- Feb 15·2 repliesryuH
Thats a big category though especially for an artist like J Cole where his rapping should be the selling point
This is a rappers rapper project. Like this for people who have actually rapped themselves at some point and took it serious enough to study the greats, decode flows and schemes etc and I'm definitely on that time. This is a hell of a performance from that perspective
He's paying homage to rappers who would technically put on a better performance but it's still a technical showcase and I don't think you need to have rapped to appreciate that. But it prolly hits different if you're a musician tho.
I listen to Rap for the rapping for sure but not just that. The artistry is just not his strong suit. Imagine if Cole had the musical sensibilities of Ye >>>>>>>
FHD in that regard overall , just worked
- Feb 15CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
He's paying homage to rappers who would technically put on a better performance but it's still a technical showcase and I don't think you need to have rapped to appreciate that. But it prolly hits different if you're a musician tho.
I listen to Rap for the rapping for sure but not just that. The artistry is just not his strong suit. Imagine if Cole had the musical sensibilities of Ye >>>>>>>
FHD in that regard overall , just worked
I don't expect Ye level or even Kendrick level musicality from Cole
I think thats unfair, thats like expecting that from Nas, he's just not that and that's not why we are here lol. I don't even expect that from Hov
I feel like that type of musical talent gets taken for granted tbh like everybody should have it when in fact that s*** is once in a quarter century level genuis lmao
- Feb 15ryuH
I disagree
I think what you call "heartfelt" is really just youth and nostalgia
Nigga was in his 20s rapping that dealing with a whole different set of emotions and we was all young asf listening
But in terms of heartfelt material that honestly what I love most about this project. Tons of heartfelt stuff, just with grown man emotions. Man Up Above heartfelt asf and Life Sentence is super heartfelt, a genuine tribute to his wife, long overdue. Beautiful stuff
I think boiling it down to "youth and nostalgia" is putting it too simply. If that were the case, people would love all of Cole's early work as much as they did FHD. There's a reason why that album was different and hit the way it did. Sometimes it just can't be translated into words, it just is. It's a feeling.
Feb 15·2 repliesCRACKASTEPPAVEGANThat's it. Fall Off has better technical rapping. That's it though
Which is what Cole has to offer
Feb 15ryuHI was with you at first but Fire Squad ain't touching any of the lyrical tracks on TFO, like not even close lol
What are we saying man
