youre talking scott snyder to Jason Aaron man

yes the series with the best and most well known writer did better than the one with someone less known

What more would you “require” them to know for my point to stand?

other than he changes in the booth

His weakness is kryptonite

And his shawty name lois lane

yes getting the best well known comic writer produced more sales. yes batman and spider man more popular than superman

that doesnt change superman is hugely popular as an ip he has just never had truly great movies, tvs, games but EVEN WITH THE QUALITY of what he had he has always had countless fans.

people acting like he isnt an cultural icon

my 86 year old grandma regardless of the quality of the movies knew the hero her entire life .

Bro. Nobody said he's not iconic. We're saying he's not as POPULAR as other characters are this century.

Iconic and popular are two different things

why is it never on the white men that write and execute the character when it comes to superman ? its always an excuse of its impossible to accomplish in 2.5 hours to 3 hours. To pull off an immigration story?

When man of steel and superman 2025 have some of the same faults and if they truly learned from each other you could make one great movie.

You don't understand what's being said at all

I bet you can’t find 3 rap songs about Batman or Spiderman respectively

And just to be a D*** head you cant use Kanye Black Bruce Wayne snippet lol

Fam inspiration or influence doesnt mean do "exactly as i would do" they even had a line about this in the movie where the prime minister told hawkgirl that he couldn't kill him and she was like well im not superman. They can be inspired to get involved but not handle it exactly as he would

"Consequences" doesnt imply morality its causation and effect.

The movie established at the beginning that there's political concerns with superheroes getting involved in political threats that differs than monsters, aliens and whatever. They even double down on this in Lanterns with Guy reaffirming he doesnt like getting involved in earth politics. The movie revolves around the govt realizing that metahumans are getting out of control hence why they even got Lex involved to handle with arresting superman when they saw him as a threat. And the movie ends with them realizing something gotta change which continues in peacemaker

How when you’re replying in contradiction to a comment I initially made? Lmao

my grandma has never texted me to see spider man lol. Superman having misses this century doesnt change that demand for a good movie from the character always exist if anything more so because we have seen a good spider man and batman movie recently. We want to see a good to great superman movie because we havent seen that in a while if EVER.

And what makes references in rap songs the determining factor?

I've heard Peja Stojakovic get name dropped in numerous rap songs, that doesn't make him the most popular basketball player

"well im not superman"

we know she is not superman and has a different level of ethics. If a hero or random human being killed Netanyahu that would lead to MORE death of civilians not less. It wouldnt solve any problem. Damn near would have been better for superman to handle the world conflict and justice gang to handle the world ripping at its seams and fighitng a superman clone.

The Arkham Trilogy
Insomniac's Spider-Man
Spider-Verse Trilogy
Tom Holland films
Nolan trilogy
Matt Reeves' Batman
Absolute Batman
Ultimate Spider-Man
Miles Morales
Sam Raimi trilogy

What does Superman have in the 21st Century that was as popular as any of these things?

SUPERMAN IS A CULTURAL ICON AND FOREVER POPULAR MAN

SUPERMAN NOT PRODUCING GOOD CONTENT FALLS ON THE STAFF FAILING AT PRODUCING GOOD SUPERMAN CONTENT

He's iconic, but in 2026 he's not even a top 3 most popular comic book character dog

we have seen more successful evil superman content than superman content from invincible to the boys to injustice

Good =/= popular

ITS ON THEM TO MAKE THE GOOD CONENT.

you are going to act like its impossible to write and produce a better superman movie than superman 2025?

Popularity has nothing to do with quality. There are terrible Spider-Man movies that were still extremely popular