BurgerBoi777Business wise it woulda made more sense to see what MOT did to confirm whether this vision was getting ppl invested or if ppl were tuned out before making a big move like this
This. If it was strictly business it wouldve made more sense to see how MoT performed
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YANDHIIn 2008 from a Marvel Studios that had to find distributors. This was pre-Disney. They were an independent studio
$585M in 2008 is very different ticket tales and value than 2025
The Winter Soldier made $714M. Is that really that much better than $618M?
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HimotheeThis
The money move would’ve been keeping Gunn and Safran and letting them cook. It’s still early days in the reboot and they’ve done a good job
Firing Gunn and potentially rebooting again makes zero financial sense
Idk man all reports are saying the focus is gonna be on the big name super heroes going forward aka the money makers
Gunn and his hipster love for lesser characters that aren’t box office stars probably played a big part in this
HaroldsChickenYou guys keep saying "DCEU changed the audience perception so this is impressive numbers after that"
Superman was between Toy Story and Lilo and Stich
the excuse of " well 10 years ago bvs dropped so people have been mixed on dc" is old man. The movie was marketed how it was marketed and it did what it did.
That doesn't change the reality of the public's perception of the DC brand at that point in time
·1 replyshaleiroseThe Winter Soldier made $714M. Is that really that much better than $618M?
Yes $100 Million is a lot lmao
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Iron Man and Cap also ran $50-70M under the budget of Superman
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10 years before The Batman was Dark Knight Rises it did a billion.
10 years before into the spiderverse ( less than really ) was amazing spider man 2
THE MOVIE SIMPLY HAD FAULTS YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES OF "well some didnt like the israel palestine allegory" "well Gunn is more left leaning " " People were confused on the timeline"
promise you they spent way too much money marketing superman 25 for it to not pass man of steels box office
- XavierMane
Yes $100 Million is a lot lmao
It's not that big of a difference to act like one film was a success and the other was a flop
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Man of Steel didn't have a decade's worth of sour reputation of a previous failed franchise to shake off when it released. It released right after the super successful Dark Knight Trilogy
This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.
- YANDHI
Iron Man and Cap also ran $50-70M under the budget of Superman
marketing budget way lower as well
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This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.
We've truly lost the plot as a community if $600M+ is not performing
IT WAS BETWEEN TOY STORY AND LILO AND STICH
the word of mouth was GOOD on it no one was like "oh yeah man of steel"
IT WAS BETWEEN TOY STORY AND LILO AND STICH
- HaroldsChicken
This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.
if all else fails blame snyder
·3 repliesHaroldsChicken10 years before The Batman was Dark Knight Rises it did a billion.
10 years before into the spiderverse ( less than really ) was amazing spider man 2
THE MOVIE SIMPLY HAD FAULTS YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES OF "well some didnt like the israel palestine allegory" "well Gunn is more left leaning " " People were confused on the timeline"
Superman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has
- shaleirose
We've truly lost the plot as a community if $600M+ is not performing
BROTHER ITS NOT A HUGELY MARKETABLE MOVIE TO KIDS A FALAFEL MAN IS EXECUTED AND THE MOVIE ENDS IN HIM BEING CALLED A B****
·2 repliesBlueDreamSuperman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has
BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro
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Superman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has
These guys are forgetting the last successful Superman movie released in 1981
- shaleirose
These guys are forgetting the last successful Superman movie released in 1981
cope how is BVS not a superman movie hahaha
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Idk man all reports are saying the focus is gonna be on the big name super heroes going forward aka the money makers
Gunn and his hipster love for lesser characters that aren’t box office stars probably played a big part in this
Weren’t Peacemaker and the animated DCU shows were doing pretty well on streaming tho?
Hell mainstream audiences didn’t give af about Guardians until Gunn put em on the map.
Focusing on the big names is what the last DC universe did and that didn’t work. At least with Gunn we’re getting more than one Superman movie
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BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro
That movie has Batman and Wonder Woman in it. The literal big 3
Of course it did that well
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BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro
A Batman vs. Superman film not making a billion dollars is a bigger failure than Superman (2025) making $618M
- shaleirose
A Batman vs. Superman film not making a billion dollars is a bigger failure than Superman (2025) making $618M
hahahaha
