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  • May 30, 2022
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    Water Giver

    He literally moved there n signed to a Eastcoast label & was being pushed by NY along with an East style why are you niggas playing dumb

    He literally can't go like 2 songs without bigging up new orleans lol that man is from the south

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    May 30, 2022
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    RICKY 2320

    Kendrick is a storyteller, y’all need to stop with the narrative that nobody can beat him when it comes to bars. Only thing that Kendrick does better than Drake and Cole when it comes to rapping is rhyming (and choice of subject matter if you care about that).

    wouldnt better at rhyming mean hes a better rapper skill wise...

    where tf did i say no one can touch him lol, the posed hypothetical was cole & drake vs jay e & kendrick in terms of "washing"

    cole n drake would make a better song together, jay e & kendrick would make a better "bar" song together

  • May 30, 2022
  • Water Giver 💧
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    May 30, 2022
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    He literally can't go like 2 songs without bigging up new orleans lol that man is from the south

    He bigs up both lol he doesnt have to hate his home

    But he can be both, as a Rapper tho he is def more East imo, & pushed by East so

  • May 30, 2022
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    Water Giver

    wouldnt better at rhyming mean hes a better rapper skill wise...

    where tf did i say no one can touch him lol, the posed hypothetical was cole & drake vs jay e & kendrick in terms of "washing"

    cole n drake would make a better song together, jay e & kendrick would make a better "bar" song together

    I disagree sorry

    Here Kendrick makes all these complex rhymes but he isn’t saying anything

    Meanwhile Drake gets straight to the point and drops bar after bar

    Same for Cole

    Kendrick is the greatest storyteller but y’all overhype his rapping so much

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    RICKY 2320

    I disagree sorry

    !https://youtu.be/HihM1vKWRcA

    Here Kendrick makes all these complex rhymes but he isn’t saying anything

    !https://youtu.be/-HmtzK0VDio

    Meanwhile Drake gets straight to the point and drops bar after bar

    !https://youtu.be/klZNvJArVSE

    Same for Cole

    Kendrick is the greatest storyteller but y’all overhype his rapping so much

    Well thats good on you, a lot of people wouldnt agree including myself lol.

    And thast bullshit, how are you a good storyteller but you also arent saying anything, when saying something is the most important for storytelling.

    Also that "saying nothing" is bullshit in general & a meme from the Control verse, when otherwise he does. Especially when it comes to his own music. Rigamortis on S80 is the only "nonsense" song i can think of off top that is in his own catalog.

    Drake's s*** isnt that amazing to me in terms of him being a "barred up rapper", n was never a strong suit of him to me nor the reason i am attracted to Drake's music. His best music is his dance, personal & singing stuff too me & those are my fav songs of his for the most part. Only Emotionless is the "real rap" song of Drakes in my top 10 of Drake songs.

    I am also not a fan of Drake's monotone dry "talking" flow n delivery when he purposely tries to be serious. Thats boring & simple to me. While songs that he is still rapping but not purposely in "serious" mode are way better like The Language or Cant Take a Joke.

  • May 30, 2022
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    Big JayE fan and this is the worst thread i've seen

  • May 30, 2022

    I think seeing the Beast Coast collective largely result to nothing after a few years, seeing Joey succeed after he started dumbing down his tracks, seeing drill/trap niggas take the king of NY mantle

    I really just don’t think NY wanted a conscious nigga as their top dog. Jay also doesn’t have any of the personality needed to be that nigga (not to mention…he’s not from the East)

  • May 30, 2022

    Interesting perspective

    Would be dope if you could take perspectives of the culture like this and really dive deep with a video essay or sumn

    Impacts more people, easier to digest, and the bag

  • May 30, 2022
    Zebulon

    Big JayE fan and this is the worst thread i've seen

    What is wrong with a little fanfiction?

  • May 30, 2022
    Water Giver

    NY could have had ASAP Rocky or Joey Badass (even tho Jay E better) but the media s***ted on them for half their career then warmed up to them when it was too late smh

    never understood why they didn't get their flowers in their prime. now they peaked and it's too late

  • Water Giver 💧
    OP
    May 30, 2022

    Alright I concede on my Jay E stance yall win

    New York really is just that trash in the 2010s smh damn

  • Water Giver 💧
    OP
    May 30, 2022

    I tried to throw 2010s NY a bone 😞😞😞

  • I get what OP is saying about Jay Elect being east coast. He’s Def New Orleans but he’s even admitted in songs and interviews that he was ashamed of NO, and wanted to make it in NY and rap like a New Yorker. When he came into his own, he started to basically rep that he can do NY bars with NO perspective and do it better than NY. Hence his back and forths with RZA, KaySlay, etc when he was finally getting on in a real way

  • Lmaooooooo water giver was trying his hardest to make Jay Elect a New York nigga

  • May 30, 2022
    RICKY 2320

    I disagree sorry

    !https://youtu.be/HihM1vKWRcA

    Here Kendrick makes all these complex rhymes but he isn’t saying anything

    !https://youtu.be/-HmtzK0VDio

    Meanwhile Drake gets straight to the point and drops bar after bar

    !https://youtu.be/klZNvJArVSE

    Same for Cole

    Kendrick is the greatest storyteller but y’all overhype his rapping so much

    Drake bars def hit harder.

  • May 30, 2022

    jay elec never repped east coast this like sayin Uzi a southern rapper cus he got signed in Atlanta even tho he from Philly and rep philly