leave the drake stans alone
the last time he had to perform against a rival he tanked so badly that his fans genuinely thought he was trolling
https://ktt2.com/is-new-again-one-of-the-greatest-songs-of-the-21st-century-32498996
not sure what this is meant to prove
These kids grew up in the streaming era and sadly thats all they know
Their logic is that CLB is better than illmatic because it sold more and had more hits
No point in arguing with such dumbasses
Nobody is saying that.
People are saying hits should do numbers, which is the literal definition of a hit.
Y'all just like shifting goalposts.
Yep agree. But as you said, people go crazy for the nostalgia factor in these type of things. Case in point - the larry Hoover concert when drizzy performed newer songs compared to Ye
That's really all it is. Same way if Drake played songs off So Far Gone/Take Care in a Verzus, they'd get a bigger crowd reaction than Post Malone's biggest hits. Nostalgia plays a bigger factor in any Verzus battle than any other thing.
Doesn't matter if you play the biggest hit of all time. All the other artist has to do to beat your song is play a very old song that's nostalgic.
In all of this, it's very telling that NO ONE has ever compared Drake to any of his peers when it comes to Verzus battles. It's always folks like Jay Z or Kanye with decades over him. That tells you all you need to know about the strength of Drake's own catalog. None of his peers come close to him.
That's all well and good but Marcy Me against pretty much any of Drake's no.1s is a mismatch
I don't count songs that just peaked in the top 10 for one week and fell off "hits". I generally only consider a song a hit if it has some longevity in the top 10/top 20.
With that being said, Drake would still have a s***-load more hits than Jay Z without the streaming era. He surpassed him as the rapper with the most rap #1s back on 2012 (3 years after he broke into the mainstream music market).
That's what inspired the "most #1s ever, how long did it really take me" line on 5AM in Toronto.
As at 2013:
Billboard’s most number-one Rap Songs
(name, debut year – total)
1. Drake, 2009 – 14
2. Diddy, 1997 – 10
3. Kanye West, 2005 – 9
Billboard’s most number-one Hip-Hop/R&B singles
1. Drake, 2009 – 10
2. Jay-Z, 1995 – 9
3. Lil Wayne, 1999 – 8
Heads up bro, a versus isn't about sales numbers. You're missing the point. Its a sound clash. It's about playing songs that trigger some sort of reaction in the audience. Songs like Lord Knows would prob do better than huge pop hits like Hotline Bling for drake
lots of people stream a song = its a hit!
lots of people say an artist is the goat = hold on a second you cant do that!!!
Heads up bro, a versus isn't about sales numbers. You're missing the point. Its a sound clash. It's about playing songs that trigger some sort of reaction in the audience. Songs like Lord Knows would prob do better than huge pop hits like Hotline Bling for drake
That's exactly my point. Verzus started off as a hit battle. When the first couple of R&B niggas did theirs, they played their biggest/most known songs. Somewhere along the line, it changed to a battle of the most nostalgic records and that's what f***ed everything up and the older artist with the more well-aged records will always win the battle.
yall would never say this out loud in real life discussing hip hop
Am gonna ether all hiphop discussion and renegade all arguments
That's all well and good but Marcy Me against pretty much any of Drake's no.1s is a mismatch
Lol, what?
If you were born in the 80s maybe
Quality is wildly subjective
Baby Got Back and Ice Ice Baby are s***ty songs IMO but old heads Astroworld whenever it comes on.
I get what you're saying but at the end of the day, quality is subjective. That's what Verzus kinda worked better when it was about the biggest/most impactful hits and not fan favorites lol.
There are Drake songs from So Far Gone that are great and nostalgic that 13-14 year-old kids won't give a f*** about because they didn't grow up on that and that's not the sound they grew up loving. But when a song is a hit, it's a hit. Doesn't matter if you like it or not.
That's why numbers will always matter. Critics/fans have hated albums upon release and loved them years down the line (this happened to many early Jay Z albums, proving how fluid opinions are) but numbers are rock solid. Doesn't matter that I don't like some artists who put up numbers because the numbers are hard fact, beyond how I feel about them or their music.
Any am/pm track goes head to head with it
you got the d*** all in your mouth sha boing boing
nigga said any am pm song like the last one drake dropped didn’t age in 2 months by making up with ye
No.
Hov simply has more classic/amazing albums than any other rapper ever.
This is an undisputed FACT.
how many classic albums does jay have according to u
Who gives a f*** where it peaked that song was everywhere 2017-18
Eeh. It was a lot of places, everywhere wasn't one