Man has a bar “pray five times a day so many fell on knees” and y’all questioning the invisible ink

This might be one of the worst pages 1 by an OP in ktt history

He even said American Gangster was ass

BP3 tracks 1-7 is solid but after that it gets inconsistent fr fr

Exactly, an album with:

• What We Talkin About
• Thank You
• D.O.A.
• Run This Town
• Empire State of Mind
• Real As it Gets
• On To The Next One
• A Star is Born
• Already Home
• Hate
• So Amibitious

Cant be bad At the bottom of Jay discography, but not bad by any means

Yeah 444 exists he left if he left with a triumph

1000%

Love that album idc

What the hell have y'all done?

To even have an opinion on what I've been doin

What the hell have y'all won?

The only thing you can identify with, is losing

10 number 1 albums, who better than me?

Only The Beatles, nobody ahead of me

Lowkey flopped tbh. Critics ate it up but the album didn’t have any legs and the tour struggled to sell seats

Kanye exec produced Blueprint 3 too and that’s the album that really cemented jay as a universal icon whether you enjoy the project or not

That nigga just typing bruh LMAO

I can see that, but tbh that album is so personal it’s no wonder the general public didn’t mess with it too much. But damn I adore that album, absolute genius in my eyes

you tryna convince us that you thought this through

Yeah critics and sales s*** aside the album is really good. Smile has become one of my favorite songs in general

horrible horrible take lol

kanye executive producing that album s***s all over op's argument lol

Revisionist history itt. American Gangster was not marketed as a comeback album

It was a return to form tho

OP said Hov wasn’t making noise in the 2000s

Documentary proved this to be false. Dame didn’t give a s*** about Kanye while Jay the one who put him on BP2 as a rapper when he asked him

Coodie even said Dame signed him to keep him as a producer and at press conference was more interested in Peedi

Doc showed Jay was on tour when Kanye was signed so he was busy

I watched the doc too bruh lmao

Yes Dame signed him for that reason but Jay didn't wanna sign him at all

Like I said Jay wasn’t even around when he was signed he was on tour

Then gave Ye his first look as a rapper on a rocafella project and was calling him the future and he’d put money on Ye to blow up

Where does the narrative that he didn’t want him come from? Dame Dash?

Bro it comes from Kanye himself

He himself said that he lowkey betrayed Dame when he chose to go with Jay but chose to do it because he wanted to learn how to move in a room full of vultures from Jay

Folks still running with the narrative that Dame had this belief in Kanye as a rapper. The whole Roc just wanted dem beats

“The problem was with Dame his truth was more accurate and more closer to what mine was, but his technique was harsh for me as a young kid and stuff,” he said. “I felt like a little bit more pressure. And Jay Z was a nice guy. And also I felt like I had that truth that Dame has in him. We the same. Me and Cam, me and Dame, we the same. But I wanted to learn this technique that Jay got of actually being likable…So, Jay Z know how to move in a room full of vultures. You know what I’m saying? As his little brother, I needed to learn that technique because I got something that God want me to give the world.”

This is what you’re referring to? It says nothing about who did more from him just that Dame is more similar to him but was meaner than Jay who was a nice guy. He wanted to learn to be likable like Jay

Unless I’m missing something it’s always been Dame who pushed that narrative Jay didn’t want Ye. You can link something that proves me wrong I could have missed an interview

Revisionist history saying jay needed saving after BP3, plus BP3 also had a ton of Kanye collaboration and was partly piggy backing in itself so weird to contrast that with WTT when it was really the same