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  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Tubig

    Kingdom Come 2x platinum are we going to call that a classic too?

    Did that album have the cultural impact or hits that Views did? No

    I’m not saying it’s purely determined by sales I’m saying there’s a degree to which an album represents some sort of cultural zeitgeist in the public consciousness that is important. Sales are necessary but insufficient when talking about this type of classic

    There’s other types of classics tho peep my thread from last night.

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Sinewave

    Did that album have the cultural impact or hits that Views did? No

    I’m not saying it’s purely determined by sales I’m saying there’s a degree to which an album represents some sort of cultural zeitgeist in the public consciousness that is important. Sales are necessary but insufficient when talking about this type of classic

    There’s other types of classics tho peep my thread from last night.

    Stop this now

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Thread in desperate need of locking down

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Clb sexman

    Stop this now

    What did I say that’s wrong

    Do you want to engage or just s*** post

  • Dec 5, 2020
    Sinewave

    TLOP is a classic btw and Kanye’s best album

    hell no

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Sinewave

    What did I say that’s wrong

    Do you want to engage or just s*** post

    You dont deserve my engagement you said quality doesnt determine a classic foh

  • The delusion is real

  • Dec 5, 2020
    Sinewave

    TLOP is a classic btw and Kanye’s best album

    No & No

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Sinewave

    Did that album have the cultural impact or hits that Views did? No

    I’m not saying it’s purely determined by sales I’m saying there’s a degree to which an album represents some sort of cultural zeitgeist in the public consciousness that is important. Sales are necessary but insufficient when talking about this type of classic

    There’s other types of classics tho peep my thread from last night.

    How can a popular album like em's not be considered as cultural impact

  • Sinewave

    TLOP is a classic btw and Kanye’s best album

    Hasn’t made a classic since yeezus

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Thread in desperate need of locking down

    not until my gif on page one goes plat

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Clb sexman

    You dont deserve my engagement you said quality doesnt determine a classic foh

    Quality on its own does not determine a classic

    I can’t point to like 10 90s Memphis tapes where everyone is rapping their ass off and the production is immaculate that no one on this site ever heard and I couldn’t reasonably call them classics even within their respective scene because they didn’t make a splash like that

    Someone like Mach Hommy for example can make incredible music but it would be insane of anyone to declare any of his tapes “classic”

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    Dec 5, 2020
    Sinewave

    Did that album have the cultural impact or hits that Views did? No

    I’m not saying it’s purely determined by sales I’m saying there’s a degree to which an album represents some sort of cultural zeitgeist in the public consciousness that is important. Sales are necessary but insufficient when talking about this type of classic

    There’s other types of classics tho peep my thread from last night.

    Hov, “greatest rapper alive”, returns from retirement

    700k copies first week

    Grammy for RaotY

    Hit singles

    Was very much a cultural moment

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Sinewave

    Quality on its own does not determine a classic

    I can’t point to like 10 90s Memphis tapes where everyone is rapping their ass off and the production is immaculate that no one on this site ever heard and I couldn’t reasonably call them classics even within their respective scene because they didn’t make a splash like that

    Someone like Mach Hommy for example can make incredible music but it would be insane of anyone to declare any of his tapes “classic”

    Nobody said all you need is quality for a classic but you phrased it in a way which sounds like quality doesnt even matter lol

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Oblivion X

    How can a popular album like em's not be considered as cultural impact

    because the extent of the culture it affected was midwestern cigarette smoking dip chewing cookie monster sweatpants whites and gave them ammo to be angry at loved ones to and fantasize about murdering them

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Oblivion X

    How can a popular album like em's not be considered as cultural impact

    I’m not saying it had NO cultural impact but I’m saying it wasn’t representative of an entire year ad culture the way Views was. Again there’s a difference between being popular and having some sort of fundamental representation of a genre and pop cultural consciousness

  • Dec 5, 2020

    Moral of the thread: Some of y'all really need to go outside, take a breath of fresh air and touch some grass. Why not get some hoes while you're at it too.

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Slingshot

    because the extent of the culture it affected was midwestern cigarette smoking dip chewing cookie monster sweatpants whites and gave them ammo to be angry at loved ones to and fantasize about murdering them

    U say this as drake fanbase isnt mostly compromise of white people

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    Clb sexman

    Nobody said all you need is quality for a classic but you phrased it in a way which sounds like quality doesnt even matter lol

    Maybe I should have been more specific but what I’m saying is that quality on its own doesn’t make a classic, and something can be a classic without necessarily being great music

    Again this is what the masses decide, whether that’s the broad masses or the particular audience of a given scene

    I don’t even f*** with Views that heavy personally but it would be delusional of me to not consider it a classic

  • Dec 5, 2020

    move to ye sxn

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    Oblivion X

    U say this as drake fanbase isnt mostly compromise of white people

    Im not talking about who it’s for Im talking bout the purpose of the music and why the reach isnt as relevant

  • Dec 5, 2020
    Sinewave
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    Maybe I should have been more specific but what I’m saying is that quality on its own doesn’t make a classic, and something can be a classic without necessarily being great music

    Again this is what the masses decide, whether that’s the broad masses or the particular audience of a given scene

    I don’t even f*** with Views that heavy personally but it would be delusional of me to not consider it a classic

    How can something be deemed a classic if it isnt great music????????

  • Dec 5, 2020
    garetare

    rip.

    damn

  • Dec 5, 2020
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    Album is a mess but it's better than Yandhi would have been. JIK is a messy, rushed, and occasionally stupid album. Yandhi was generic, boring, and cringeworthy as f***. I will never understand the reverence people hold for that s***

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