BlueDreamMost people really aren’t ready to have that convo, but the decline really did start in 2016
So many people have nostalgia for that era because it was “fun” . But this was when rappers really stopped caring about having a genuine good verse. It started to become more about “vibes “
And music listeners ate that up, so then up and coming rappers didn’t need to actually rap well anymore to blow up.
And that’s why hip hop is in its current state
And I’m not saying there wasn’t good music during this era, but this was when lyrics stopped mattering
strongly agreed.
·1 replythe difference was people hated the snap era enough that the big rappers of that era wasn't kotowing to that ala Drake and a Toosie Slide
that's the difference.
·3 repliesinsertcoolnameherethe difference was people hated the snap era enough that the big rappers of that era wasn't kotowing to that ala Drake and a Toosie Slide
that's the difference.
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
- BlueDream
Most people really aren’t ready to have that convo, but the decline really did start in 2016
So many people have nostalgia for that era because it was “fun” . But this was when rappers really stopped caring about having a genuine good verse. It started to become more about “vibes “
And music listeners ate that up, so then up and coming rappers didn’t need to actually rap well anymore to blow up.
And that’s why hip hop is in its current state
And I’m not saying there wasn’t good music during this era, but this was when lyrics stopped mattering
Lyrics always matter the problem isnt lyrics its the sound itself. It became more edm than hip hop and since then the only innovation has been how loud and distorted can u make the 808
All of them had better rap careers than Joe budden
- Poolboy Q
Wayne’s and Kanye’s are once in a lifetime artists. We don’t get that s*** every 3 years.
Its 8 billion mufuckas on this planet u tellin me we only get one legend every what 5-10 years? The problem is the way the industry works not the artists talent
rapsThis is cope to not acknowledge we collectively as a culture started letting niggas get big 3 rapper perks (carti uzi yachty) without big 3 rap skills
Are Cudi Lupe Pharrell etc also “once in a lifetime” artists because they also said f*** just giving in to imitating niggas half their age and continued to make dope s*** that served as the foundation to the blog era? Lol niggas be making excuses
Ayo u nailed it lowkey
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Niggamortis
Ayo why he got a string in his ass
chowderKtt doing the performative bit and pretending like this is new info cuz I said Budden
Like most ppl on here haven’t been saying most these cats out their prime, or openly mock yachty
Didn’t realize we had so many Denzel f***ing Curry fans on ktt! vapid contrarianism
Top 3 worst posts in ktt history
- ·1 replyraps
This is cope to not acknowledge we collectively as a culture started letting niggas get big 3 rapper perks (carti uzi yachty) without big 3 rap skills
Are Cudi Lupe Pharrell etc also “once in a lifetime” artists because they also said f*** just giving in to imitating niggas half their age and continued to make dope s*** that served as the foundation to the blog era? Lol niggas be making excuses
nobody replying to this lmao - ·1 replyHazyeyefreakmonstr
Ayo why he got a string in his ass
mic pack wire prolly.
- ·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere nobody replying to this lmao
Why u say that
Seems like a reasonable post to me
- insertcoolnamehere
mic pack wire prolly.
Ig we will have to give him the benefit of the doubt
- Poolboy Q
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
The modern south turned fun into the main event. So when the south dominated, fun dominated. And that's where the problems began. It's a nuanced conversation and we gotta have it without yall niggas having a chip on yall shoulder lol
- ·1 replyHazyeyefreakmonstr
Why u say that
Seems like a reasonable post to me
which is why no one'll have a rebuttal to it lmao
- Poolboy Q
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
As a statistically inclined person i think this is a little dishonest, youre sampling one point in history as if it in totality defines an entire group of people, thats not how the world works, like the other dude said its more nuanced
- insertcoolnamehere
which is why no one'll have a rebuttal to it lmao
That just means he won and no one is clever enough to come up with a retort
- ·1 replyPoolboy Q
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else?
because people back home in Atlanta wasn't rapping their asses off lmfao.
Nigga I'm from Atlanta. The trap niggas of the 2000s versus the 2010s was built from a different cloth.
TI and Jeezy was rapping rapping while still doing they trap s***. Hell Waka and Gucci was at least saying more words than what a Carti is doing today.
Migos' Takeoff was actually rapping rapping to the point he kilt it on a goddamn 2015 Alchemist beat collabing with Mac Miller.
There was versatility in 2000s Atlanta
when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
It wasn't a problem until everyone else started doing it.
It wasn't a problem until MIMS made new york niggas thinking "oh I guess this is just what we gon do now" since late 00s NY had an identity crisis.
and 80s NY never had a Trinidad Jame$ that let's be real q came off as a jiggaboo type of character dawg lol. And yeah 80s NY raps had party music but they also had The motherfucking Message.
modern Atlanta won't even get behind any other rapper that's not a Carti slop clone so niggas like Kenny Mason that actually RAP don't get shine. Like I'm from here and I can say we kinda did f*** s*** up.
- ·1 reply
Like my nigga
This was a hit yall. By one of Atlanta's biggest rappers ever at the time.
rapping over a New York nigga type beat
Niggas. Had. Variety. Back. Then.
We don't now lol.
and people have a right to feel a way about that.
/thread.
- ·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else?
because people back home in Atlanta wasn't rapping their asses off lmfao.
Nigga I'm from Atlanta. The trap niggas of the 2000s versus the 2010s was built from a different cloth.
TI and Jeezy was rapping rapping while still doing they trap s***. Hell Waka and Gucci was at least saying more words than what a Carti is doing today.
Migos' Takeoff was actually rapping rapping to the point he kilt it on a goddamn 2015 Alchemist beat collabing with Mac Miller.
There was versatility in 2000s Atlanta
when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol
It wasn't a problem until everyone else started doing it.
It wasn't a problem until MIMS made new york niggas thinking "oh I guess this is just what we gon do now" since late 00s NY had an identity crisis.
and 80s NY never had a Trinidad Jame$ that let's be real q came off as a jiggaboo type of character dawg lol. And yeah 80s NY raps had party music but they also had The motherfucking Message.
modern Atlanta won't even get behind any other rapper that's not a Carti slop clone so niggas like Kenny Mason that actually RAP don't get shine. Like I'm from here and I can say we kinda did f*** s*** up.
Bro I’m not even arguing that there weren’t spitters next to goofball rappers. Yes every era had little niches and subgenres. Do Yall really think that I think E-40 was the only rapper doing it both ways?
My first post was saying that the ringtone rap era had the blog era follow it. Who’s to say that we won’t have an era following what we have going on right now? Because again, not everyone right now is on some Carti s***. There are still people dropping lyrical s*** these days.
Specifically me and you started arguing over Lupe though lol
- ·1 replyPoolboy Q
Bro I’m not even arguing that there weren’t spitters next to goofball rappers. Yes every era had little niches and subgenres. Do Yall really think that I think E-40 was the only rapper doing it both ways?
My first post was saying that the ringtone rap era had the blog era follow it. Who’s to say that we won’t have an era following what we have going on right now? Because again, not everyone right now is on some Carti s***. There are still people dropping lyrical s*** these days.
Specifically me and you started arguing over Lupe though lol
Because again, not everyone right now is on some Carti s***. There are still people dropping lyrical s*** these days.
The difference the people on some carti s*** are the people getting views. the people getting playlist placements. The people getting looked at. NOT the lyrical people.
The difference was back then, it was variety and everyone got shine like the blog era.
And it's been a decade since 2016 q lol. There aint no "blog era" type s*** coming lol. If it was it woulda been came by now.
I just disagreed with you saying Lupe wasn't mainstream lol. The man definitely was building up to it, mans had Snoop Dogg features on The Cool for goodness sake lol.
the existence of a yeat or a fakemink or nettspend or any of these "cosplay atlanta" type crackers is only proof that s*** is f***ed.
Bringing up Kodak being a crackhead like Joe Budden wasn’t a dusthead around his age is funny
- insertcoolnamehere
Because again, not everyone right now is on some Carti s***. There are still people dropping lyrical s*** these days.
The difference the people on some carti s*** are the people getting views. the people getting playlist placements. The people getting looked at. NOT the lyrical people.
The difference was back then, it was variety and everyone got shine like the blog era.
And it's been a decade since 2016 q lol. There aint no "blog era" type s*** coming lol. If it was it woulda been came by now.
I just disagreed with you saying Lupe wasn't mainstream lol. The man definitely was building up to it, mans had Snoop Dogg features on The Cool for goodness sake lol.
You could say it’s not coming. But all it takes is one cultural shift (not necessarily musically) to shift the music culture
