Big off a podcast vs big off music. These things are very different but go off.

If we wanna go that route Desus & Mero more successful than Joe and Jay

you in a thread of niggas that aint never even heard of a Green Lantern tape my g.

you in the pursuit of happiness bum ass nigga still one of the hardest bars I ever heard 'nahmean?

So Jay being on the whole thing feels more random and attention-seeking to you? I don’t know much about Jay Elec, and frankly this record isn’t holding up on repeated listens for me, I just thought that was a fair comparison as far as a rapper having one rapper (who most people agree is better than them, even) feature on almost every track. But your group point is fair, too.

When was the last time HOV did big numbers without inflating his numbers by selling like a million copies to a company before the album was released?

MCHG and 4:44 was sold to companies more they where released to crank up the numbers (and make money)so the numbers they did does not really show if the audience still loves him

Joe’s criticism was weak, bottom line.

How a album with both Hov and beyonce flopped the world will never know

“Hurts when your OG that’s supposed to be a GOD is standing next to King Kunta feeling like Toby” the pens at TDE applied pressure quick

jay elecs girl is one of the most powerful people in this earth

joe's girl is a IG thot

Alcoholic I think

Also, Joe's had more chart success with no Hov feature than Jay E is having with all this help from Hov, RN and Social Media.

'Cause it sucked also the Beyhive hates Jay Z

At least they own up to it , I respect it

I coulda swore shorty was like.....dissassociated from her family because of cheating on her with Jay. Soooooo, she don't even got the power my g

Drake definitely wouldn't get low diff washed by Kendrick at all.

Drake's recent albums been mid but he was always good at diss songs even before the Common s***

Idk why but I like rap discussions even if the people don’t know what they’re talking about.

Nobody likes Hov and Beyonce collabs. They're all trash besides Crazy in Love. Of course it was gonna flop my g.

Jay really cucked a man from one of the richest families in England

And ya still say he ain't one of the goats

Jay Electronica with a billionaire cave b****.

Joe Budden with a IG model.

They both take L's, only thing different is Jay Electronica got Rothschild money out of his L.

Kanye really was the mastermind behind WTT 🤔🤔🤔

I'm still wondering how the NOI just let Jay get that off my g.

I also think drake rap style leans towards it, kendrick can rap his ass of but he's not really a "bar" type of rapper , punchline type rapper, more of a string words in a poetic way

Idk they maybe brought some ppl into the religion but they're still openly making a mockery of Islam. Like Elijah Muhammad literally claimed to be a prophet himself, just how haram can niggas go lol.

I don't respect them because I don't respect their ideology. I appreciate some of the things they fought for though.

a dissassociated rothschild still has much more power than you or me will most likely ever have

for sure man...like that side of it is all shirk. we're on the same page there for sure.