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  • Mar 17, 2020
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    The Retiring Mane

    when I've managed to get bigger than they ever did in a much shorter time...

    Joe Budden has done live podcasts in bigger venues than Jay has ever performed at.

    You clearly are the biggest hater in this thread my g

    Big off a podcast vs big off music. These things are very different but go off.

    If we wanna go that route Desus & Mero more successful than Joe and Jay

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    KIN
    https://twitter.com/bdotthegod/status/1239927945415647232

    This is an elite rapper btw

    you in a thread of niggas that aint never even heard of a Green Lantern tape my g.

    you in the pursuit of happiness bum ass nigga still one of the hardest bars I ever heard 'nahmean?

  • Mar 17, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    Except both Raekwon and Ghost are members of a group soooo no my g. Unless there'a 5 Percenter rap group that dreadlock Hov and Jay are a part of that I just never got the memo of then I'll stand corrected

    So Jay being on the whole thing feels more random and attention-seeking to you? I don’t know much about Jay Elec, and frankly this record isn’t holding up on repeated listens for me, I just thought that was a fair comparison as far as a rapper having one rapper (who most people agree is better than them, even) feature on almost every track. But your group point is fair, too.

  • Mar 17, 2020
    MARGIELA MOSES

    Btw crazy to me how a HOV COLLAB ALBUM is flopping this hard. The only song to break 1 million streams so far on Spotify is the one with the awful Travis Scott feature

    When was the last time HOV did big numbers without inflating his numbers by selling like a million copies to a company before the album was released?

    MCHG and 4:44 was sold to companies more they where released to crank up the numbers (and make money)so the numbers they did does not really show if the audience still loves him

  • Mar 17, 2020

    Joe’s criticism was weak, bottom line.

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    856

    Everything is Love tanked with Beyoncé on it

    How a album with both Hov and beyonce flopped the world will never know

  • Mar 17, 2020
    Scott Raiden

    Jay E didnt even want none with Kendrick and Kendrick sent love taps at him lyrically lol

    “Hurts when your OG that’s supposed to be a GOD is standing next to King Kunta feeling like Toby” the pens at TDE applied pressure quick

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    CLB Wilian

    jay elec girl :

    joe budden girl:

    i know which one winning

    jay elecs girl is one of the most powerful people in this earth

    joe's girl is a IG thot

  • Mar 17, 2020
    AKFresh

    Wasn't Jay Electronica a d*** addict too

    Alcoholic I think

  • Mar 17, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    when I've managed to get bigger than they ever did in a much shorter time...

    Joe Budden has done live podcasts in bigger venues than Jay has ever performed at.

    You clearly are the biggest hater in this thread my g

    Also, Joe's had more chart success with no Hov feature than Jay E is having with all this help from Hov, RN and Social Media.

  • Mar 17, 2020
    Oblivion X

    How a album with both Hov and beyonce flopped the world will never know

    'Cause it sucked also the Beyhive hates Jay Z

  • Mar 17, 2020
    earthwalka

    They the Hovengers, we already knew that lmao

    At least they own up to it , I respect it

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    nikedon

    jay elecs girl is one of the most powerful people in this earth

    joe's girl is a IG thot

    I coulda swore shorty was like.....dissassociated from her family because of cheating on her with Jay. Soooooo, she don't even got the power my g

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    Oblivion X

    Tbh I agree, jay elect ain't really a battle rapper like that, somewhat how I dont think kendrick would really washed drake in a battle

    Drake definitely wouldn't get low diff washed by Kendrick at all.

    Drake's recent albums been mid but he was always good at diss songs even before the Common s***

  • Mar 17, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    you in a thread of niggas that aint never even heard of a Green Lantern tape my g.

    you in the pursuit of happiness bum ass nigga still one of the hardest bars I ever heard 'nahmean?

    Idk why but I like rap discussions even if the people don’t know what they’re talking about.

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    Nobody likes Hov and Beyonce collabs. They're all trash besides Crazy in Love. Of course it was gonna flop my g.

  • Mar 17, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    I coulda swore shorty was like.....dissassociated from her family because of cheating on her with Jay. Soooooo, she don't even got the power my g

    Jay really cucked a man from one of the richest families in England

    And ya still say he ain't one of the goats

  • Mar 17, 2020
    CLB Wilian

    jay elec girl :

    joe budden girl:

    i know which one winning

    Jay Electronica with a billionaire cave b****.

    Joe Budden with a IG model.

    They both take L's, only thing different is Jay Electronica got Rothschild money out of his L.

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    Kanye really was the mastermind behind WTT 🤔🤔🤔

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    I'm still wondering how the NOI just let Jay get that off my g.

  • Mar 17, 2020
    Scott Raiden

    Drake definitely wouldn't get low diff washed by Kendrick at all.

    Drake's recent albums been mid but he was always good at diss songs even before the Common s***

    !https://youtu.be/rIFhbcAMiTE

    I also think drake rap style leans towards it, kendrick can rap his ass of but he's not really a "bar" type of rapper , punchline type rapper, more of a string words in a poetic way

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    Palestinian Oozi

    I'm sunni. While some of what you say is true about the Nation, NOI did bring a lot of people eventually into mainstream Islam. For example Elijah Muhammad's son Warith Deen Muhammad, Malcolm, and Muhammad Ali being some of the bigger examples.

    I respect Farrakhan. He was a very sharp debater in his prime and put on for Palestine in the 80s in a strong way.

    The WD Fard stuff is shirk though for me.

    Idk they maybe brought some ppl into the religion but they're still openly making a mockery of Islam. Like Elijah Muhammad literally claimed to be a prophet himself, just how haram can niggas go lol.

    I don't respect them because I don't respect their ideology. I appreciate some of the things they fought for though.

  • Mar 17, 2020
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    The Retiring Mane

    I coulda swore shorty was like.....dissassociated from her family because of cheating on her with Jay. Soooooo, she don't even got the power my g

    a dissassociated rothschild still has much more power than you or me will most likely ever have

  • nikedon

    Idk they maybe brought some ppl into the religion but they're still openly making a mockery of Islam. Like Elijah Muhammad literally claimed to be a prophet himself, just how haram can niggas go lol.

    I don't respect them because I don't respect their ideology. I appreciate some of the things they fought for though.

    for sure man...like that side of it is all shirk. we're on the same page there for sure.

  • Mar 17, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    I'm still wondering how the NOI just let Jay get that off my g.

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