yes, absolutely right

it's at such a pivotal moment where all the meaning and character motivations can get muddied up so distastefully

it's insane there were no test screenings for this, what an absurd message to have your audience take away

Hollywood loves the smell of blood @Brave

At this point bump gagas pay because both joaquin and todd phillips f***ed around to much with her time.

🤴 s***

A $200 million s***post that only the star finds funny

WB really the dumbest studio on the planet for greenlighting this

Can we trade Todd Phillips for Damien Chazelle from the Director Jail? 🥺🥺🥺

What does this mean

Alright so I caved in and watched it and surprisingly enough, it was nowhere bad as I was predicting it to be

Although some of the musical segments were random af and cringe inducing (especially Phoneix's)

I could understand how watching this sequel is going to ruin the aura on how a lot of people felt about the first film

That ending was basically Todd Phillips giving a big middle finger to the movie excutives at Warner Brothers Studio and I already know it's sure to ruffle some feathers for fans of Heath Ledger's Joker

When Gary took the stand it was argubably the best scene in the whole movie and my favorite part

I went after work and it was just me in the theater

Yeah this might not even do 3.5x it's budget for it to be a box office success

idk where TF people got that s*** from lmao

To me, it looks like the guards just roughed him up and took him to the showers to wash him up / get the clown s*** off his face and dress him back into prison clothes

Unless, Philips / JP says different, I dont think it happened

makes sense, not surprised. the only way he would return to playing the character would be a hard left turn like this.

Movie is dope, genuinely. It will go down as a classic in years from now, everyone is just big mad about how the idea of what they thought this joker was in their heads, wasn't. The fans are not the director, Todd Phillips is, this is his vision, not ours. So sit back and enjoy it for once. The people with complaints, most of them have sounded like absolute bot opinions, as if they just wanted joker and harley to be doing typical joker and harley s***, blowing things up, killing people, causing chaos ect. I actually respect that this WASN'T that.

I can definitely see this film being reevaluated over the years. It has flaws for sure but it’s nowhere near the trainwreck like it’s been described online. Being called one of the worst films of all time is absurd

for sure 100% people are just jumping on a hate train rn with this most people who hate the movie have never watched it fact

its taking everything in me to supress the inner burgeoning teenage insufferable film snob and not love this film solely because its a box office bomb and no one likes it

as a double feature i think this is one of the most unique and interesting double features because, he has his fun in the first movie, and reality hits him like a truck in the sequel, plus it being two different genres, but the same themes, and the score will really bring the two films together, the score was amazing again of course.

QUIT LAUGHING YOU SICK SON OF A B****!!!

Not sure if you watch them but DoubleToasted put out a vid today going over their reasons why they think it failed critically and with audiences while also praising aspects of it as well

why do birds…suddenly appear everytime .. you near??

just like me… they long to be …. close to you

Yo i was just listening to them talk about it from their twitch stream

I pretty much agree with their takes about it having great moments but the execution fell flat at parts