I watched a CAM version while being sick at home.
it's the only right way to watch this
This really as bad as they saying?
shid just boring.
Niggas gassing it tho.
1st movie was sum trash too imo.
shid just boring.
Niggas gassing it tho.
1st movie was sum trash too imo.
First movie is not bashed enough
just watched first time, absolutely loved it
they made a whole movie where his love interest is all the corny joker fans personified and spent 2 hours explaining that they’re braindead
and then all those same fans said hey man that s*** sucked why wasnt joker cool
just watched first time, absolutely loved it
they made a whole movie where his love interest is all the corny joker fans personified and spent 2 hours explaining that they’re braindead
and then all those same fans said hey man that s*** sucked why wasnt joker cool
Being meta doesn’t make it automatically a good movie though
Ultimately it’s just boring & pointless, not necessarily trash
Being meta doesn’t make it automatically a good movie though
Ultimately it’s just boring & pointless, not necessarily trash
if there is a point, it does seem to be some criticism of fans of the first film and violence for violence sake, which sure, valid. but they also could’ve made a better movie out of it and still kept that criticism.
“I don’t think we’re giving the people what they want”
because even with that point being able to be taken away it does like you said feel pointless.And then there’s just this circle of pointlessness and then u can be like:
“The movie had so many pointless aspects because it’s criticizing how pointless superhero movies are”
S***s not that next level of a message that it’s just going over everyones head in here, that’s just cope to me
That being said if people really enjoyed this i ain’t hating and i wish i could’ve salvaged more enjoyment out of it like they did
And i do think it’s kind of funny if this movie was intentionally created to be a dud
if there is a point, it does seem to be some criticism of fans of the first film and violence for violence sake, which sure, valid. but they also could’ve made a better movie out of it and still kept that criticism.
“I don’t think we’re giving the people what they want”
because even with that point being able to be taken away it does like you said feel pointless.And then there’s just this circle of pointlessness and then u can be like:
“The movie had so many pointless aspects because it’s criticizing how pointless superhero movies are”
S***s not that next level of a message that it’s just going over everyones head in here, that’s just cope to me
That being said if people really enjoyed this i ain’t hating and i wish i could’ve salvaged more enjoyment out of it like they did
And i do think it’s kind of funny if this movie was intentionally created to be a dud
You hit the nail on the head here, agree with it all
Being meta doesn’t make it automatically a good movie though
Ultimately it’s just boring & pointless, not necessarily trash
Deadpool and Wolverine fanboys will disagree with you
Being meta doesn’t make it automatically a good movie though
Ultimately it’s just boring & pointless, not necessarily trash
nah being good made it a good movie, the subject matter just helped move it in that direction
a sequel to the first film would never have made any sense, but still fans begged and begged and i'm sure execs did too, so they caved but instead of giving them a sequel to the first film, they gave them a sequel to the reaction to the first film and the people and rhetoric it accidentally enabled and it lands as a great commentary on that
people will eat up meta when its a dude looking into the camera and telling them a funny joke, but when it turns around and deeply criticises them they hate it (of course)
its no surprise that the general consensus here is negative when half the reactions in this thread boil down to "i just wanted joker to be joker", the whole movie is about YOU
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Tarantino:
I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is
And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were.”
As much as the first one was indebted to Taxi Driver, this seems pretty f—ing indebted to Natural Born Killers, which I wrote. That’s the Natural Born Killers I would have dreamed of seeing, as the guy who created Mickey and Mallory. I loved what they did with it. I loved the direction he took. I mean, the whole movie was the fever dream of Mickey Knox.
Todd Phillips is the Joker. The Joker directed the movie. The entire concept, even him spending the studio’s money — he’s spending it like the Joker would spend it, all right? And then his big surprise gift — haha! — the the jack in the box, when he offers you his hand for a handshake and you get a buzzer with 10,000 volts shooting you — is the comic book geeks. He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers … And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker.”
Tarantino:
I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is
And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were.”
As much as the first one was indebted to Taxi Driver, this seems pretty f—ing indebted to Natural Born Killers, which I wrote. That’s the Natural Born Killers I would have dreamed of seeing, as the guy who created Mickey and Mallory. I loved what they did with it. I loved the direction he took. I mean, the whole movie was the fever dream of Mickey Knox.
Todd Phillips is the Joker. The Joker directed the movie. The entire concept, even him spending the studio’s money — he’s spending it like the Joker would spend it, all right? And then his big surprise gift — haha! — the the jack in the box, when he offers you his hand for a handshake and you get a buzzer with 10,000 volts shooting you — is the comic book geeks. He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers … And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker.”
oh brother
Tarantino:
I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is
And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were.”
As much as the first one was indebted to Taxi Driver, this seems pretty f—ing indebted to Natural Born Killers, which I wrote. That’s the Natural Born Killers I would have dreamed of seeing, as the guy who created Mickey and Mallory. I loved what they did with it. I loved the direction he took. I mean, the whole movie was the fever dream of Mickey Knox.
Todd Phillips is the Joker. The Joker directed the movie. The entire concept, even him spending the studio’s money — he’s spending it like the Joker would spend it, all right? And then his big surprise gift — haha! — the the jack in the box, when he offers you his hand for a handshake and you get a buzzer with 10,000 volts shooting you — is the comic book geeks. He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers … And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker.”
Tarantino:
I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is
And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were.”
As much as the first one was indebted to Taxi Driver, this seems pretty f—ing indebted to Natural Born Killers, which I wrote. That’s the Natural Born Killers I would have dreamed of seeing, as the guy who created Mickey and Mallory. I loved what they did with it. I loved the direction he took. I mean, the whole movie was the fever dream of Mickey Knox.
Todd Phillips is the Joker. The Joker directed the movie. The entire concept, even him spending the studio’s money — he’s spending it like the Joker would spend it, all right? And then his big surprise gift — haha! — the the jack in the box, when he offers you his hand for a handshake and you get a buzzer with 10,000 volts shooting you — is the comic book geeks. He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers … And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker.”
I over that he has his own opinions forreal like I could laugh at this @Antidote and I will but also it's like him listing Three Musketeers by Paul WS Anderson as a favorite of 2011 and not Drive.
Tarantino really only supports what he likes