At least, I know better that to suggest that LeBron cares about points lmao. You said that rubbish with your chest and got rightfully clocked.
I didn’t get cooked, LeBron is obviously a pass first player but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about points
You’d have to be an idiot if you thought that
Show me where I said or implied that Drake was ever an indie/underground rapper with zero hits to his name
Shut up. Stop acting like the Drake from 2009-2015 had some mysterious artistic integrity that the Drake now somehow lacks. That's what you suggested and it's a very lazy and stupid take.
I didn’t get cooked, LeBron is obviously a pass first player but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about points
You’d have to be an idiot if you thought that
they bought into that bs narrative lol
Stop bringing up how you're a fan of his music like that excuses your god awful takes.
I bring that up because I’m trying to show you that you can be a fan of his while also being critical of him and his work
Literally all you do is d***ride
Shut up, dweeb. Abel is the one chasing hits. Drake has never had to. He scores hits in his sleep lol.
Abel chases hits and so does Drake
You said that like that was supposed to hurt me or something
Shut up. Stop acting like the Drake from 2009-2015 had some mysterious artistic integrity that the Drake now somehow lacks. That's what you suggested and it's a very lazy and stupid take.
Please show me where I suggested, implied, or flat out said that
Abel chases hits and so does Drake
You said that like that was supposed to hurt me or something
Drake doesn't chase hits — something that's even more stupid to suggest that he's done since 2016 simply because his hits have gotten bigger since then. You clearly don't know the difference.
I bring that up because I’m trying to show you that you can be a fan of his while also being critical of him and his work
Literally all you do is d***ride
Yes, I'm never critical of Drake's work. You got it
Drake doesn't chase hits — something that's even more stupid to suggest that he's done since 2016 simply because his hits have gotten bigger since then. You clearly don't know the difference.
The fact that you’re so riled up about him “chasing hits” but also make numbers the main point of every discussion is very telling and slightly ironic
The fact that you’re so riled up about him “chasing hits” but also make numbers the main point of every discussion is very telling and slightly ironic
Because you don't understand the difference.
Abel changed his style and sound to a more pop/commercial sound to gain commercial success. That's reflective of chasing hits.
The Drake from 2009-2015 who you say was trying to solidify himself was already seeing success. Best I Ever Had peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 in case you don't know. Only reason it didn't reach #1 was because it got blocked by another monster hit (I Gotta Feeling).
So to suggest that he didn't care about being a hitmaker from 2009-2015 but all of a sudden started chasing hits from 2016 shows how little you understand about the significance of streaming to Drake's career.
Before streaming, he was one of the most pirated artists in the world (I believe IYRTITL was the most illegally-downloaded album in 2015, across all genres).
What streaming did for Drake was allow all the people who'd usually pirate his s*** stream it instead. Because he scores top 10 hits easily now doesn't mean he chases it. That's just reflective of people rushing to stream new music.
And that's why you're coming off as stupid. You're saying nonsense. His approach has never changed. He has always made accessible music and he does way less to promote his s*** now than ever before so how exactly is he chasing hits now?
All in all this is VOTY already until further notice
Imagine even suggesting that a nigga that's never used bundles, never done radio deals, doesn't release aimless remixes to boost himself on the charts, hasn't done the "release another album and call it a deluxe" thing, who doesn't do interviews and rarely makes music videos for his s*** is someone who is chasing hits. In what world does that make any sense?
Some of you should learn to keep your stupid, lazy takes about Drake to yourselves because you'll always end up getting exposed.
I didn’t get cooked, LeBron is obviously a pass first player but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about points
You’d have to be an idiot if you thought that
"I mean, I know how to put the ball in the hole," James said. "When I say I'm not a scorer, I say it in a sense of, it's never been the part of my game that defines me. ... But there's an argument to it. When you look at how long this record has stood and the great Kareem, being able to accomplish something like that.
"But it won't be for me to discuss because I've never felt that way."
"I want to win. The losing is not sitting well with me," James said. "I don't like having accomplishments, and it don't feel right, when it comes in a losing effort. ... So as we sit here right now as a franchise and as a team that's below .500 -- we've been playing some good basketball as of late, but we want to and I want to win at the highest level. Breaking records or setting records or passing greats in a losing effort has never been a DNA of mine."
"Me being out on the floor, trying to get the scoring title in games that don't matter, it felt so corny to me. So, I was like, I'm not even going to play," he said. "So that has never mattered to me unless it was about winning."
espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35395560/lakers-lebron-james-talks-pursuit-scoring-record-staying-great-38
Damn you even calling mans himself an idiot
Because you don't understand the difference.
Abel changed his style and sound to a more pop/commercial sound to gain commercial success. That's reflective of chasing hits.
The Drake from 2009-2015 who you say was trying to solidify himself was already seeing success. Best I Ever Had peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 in case you don't know. Only reason it didn't reach #1 was because it got blocked by another monster hit (I Gotta Feeling).
So to suggest that he didn't care about being a hitmaker from 2009-2015 but all of a sudden started chasing hits from 2016 shows how little you understand about the significance of streaming to Drake's career.
Before streaming, he was one of the most pirated artists in the world (I believe IYRTITL was the most illegally-downloaded album in 2015, across all genres).
What streaming did for Drake was allow all the people who'd usually pirate his s*** stream it instead. Because he scores top 10 hits easily now doesn't mean he chases it. That's just reflective of people rushing to stream new music.
And that's why you're coming off as stupid. You're saying nonsense. His approach has never changed. He has always made accessible music and he does way less to promote his s*** now than ever before so how exactly is he chasing hits now?
His entire approach to song-making and album-making changed post-IYRTITL.
There’s a reason every project he dropped from 2016-2021 was bloated and unfocused, because, as he’s admitted himself several times, he’s been trying to appeal to various different markets of people and sections of his fanbase.
Honestly, Nevermind was a breath of fresh air for a lot of Drake fans because it felt like the first project of his in years where he was dropping something that HE wanted to make rather than what he thought everyone wanted to hear
"I mean, I know how to put the ball in the hole," James said. "When I say I'm not a scorer, I say it in a sense of, it's never been the part of my game that defines me. ... But there's an argument to it. When you look at how long this record has stood and the great Kareem, being able to accomplish something like that.
"But it won't be for me to discuss because I've never felt that way."
"I want to win. The losing is not sitting well with me," James said. "I don't like having accomplishments, and it don't feel right, when it comes in a losing effort. ... So as we sit here right now as a franchise and as a team that's below .500 -- we've been playing some good basketball as of late, but we want to and I want to win at the highest level. Breaking records or setting records or passing greats in a losing effort has never been a DNA of mine."
"Me being out on the floor, trying to get the scoring title in games that don't matter, it felt so corny to me. So, I was like, I'm not even going to play," he said. "So that has never mattered to me unless it was about winning."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35395560/lakers-lebron-james-talks-pursuit-scoring-record-staying-great-38
Damn you even calling mans himself an idiot
I saw this interview, and still nowhere here does he say or imply he doesn’t care about scoring. You’re failing to understand the point
I saw this interview, and still nowhere here does he say or imply he doesn’t care about scoring. You’re failing to understand the point
Dawg for someone who constantly tells people they don't know how to read, you sure struggle at it.
Dawg for someone who constantly tells people they don't know how to read, you sure struggle at it.
I know how to read, you don’t know how to comprehend what you’re reading.
Two different skills
I know how to read, you don’t know how to comprehend what you’re reading.
Two different skills
You have neither obviously, clear to everyone
You have neither obviously, clear to everyone
No, it’s only “clear” to three Drake stans in this thread
Which I’m not surprised by because Drake stans can’t comprehend anything
No, it’s only “clear” to three Drake stans in this thread
Which I’m not surprised by because Drake stans can’t comprehend anything
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I CANT BE WRONG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I have no problem being wrong, but don’t try and tell me I’m wrong about things I’m knowledgeable about
I have no problem being wrong, but don’t try and tell me I’m wrong about things I’m knowledgeable about
I will cause you are
Acting like you are the only one who is knowledgeable about a subject
I will cause you are
Acting like you are the only one who is knowledgeable about a subject
And you’re just naive
I never said I was the only knowledgeable one, but don’t tell me I’m wrong about something I have knowledge of. I don’t speak on things I don’t know about