Damn, congrats @op ! I’m a PM in ad tech. I hope to make as much as that in a couple years.
Where you live tho?
50-60. It’s a senior role.
Previously as Senor a***yst was working 60-70 at times (startup culture is tough) so this is less time than I was working before
How many yrs of experience you have?
How many yrs of experience you have?
1.5 years working in entry support roles
.5 years running support team
2 years in a***yst / sr a***yst /product owner role
OP you aren’t scared that you can easily be replaced with someone who has education & experience?
That would be my main concern if I got a high paying position with essentially no education and no long-term experience.
So first and foremost, I've always been a big "comfort is the enemy of progress" person. Even since I got my very first Support job, I've been concerned they'd replace me. So that fear is always in mind. My response is to be the hardest worker and deliver the highest quality work each and every day and compete like my job is always on the line.
Additionally:
1. Job market is really tough for employers right now. My job was on market for months before I was hired
2. Although it is a high paying job and I don't have much true PM experience, I do have a lot of highly transferrable skills, have worked extremely closely w/ Product teams, and have pseudo PM work (such as being a Product Owner)
3. The role is very a***ytical based and it also works closely w/ Support teams. My background is in Support and my previous roles have been extremely a***ytical. So this role in particular fits my experience very well and it would be very hard to find someone more a***ytical or with a deep background in Support functions
4. I passed all of the 7 interviews w/ flying colors. Normally most seasoned PMs struggle. Demonstrating my ability to do well amongst more experienced peers
5. Worst scenario, I now have a true pm role from a top company I can always leverage into better roles.
Hard part is getting in door. And I was pretty intentional about finding a role that fit my background well
Work about 10 hours a week as a SWE. Not including meetings that are spent browsing YouTube KTT and Reddit.
Any way to delegate on the job and not work so many hours?
Totally. Since I’m just getting started in job it’s a ton of work to process. But once I get my legs under me, will delegate more
What’s the split? How much is cash vs stock? And public company or banking on an ipo?
60/40
public co.
Man all these companies require experience for entry level roles
yeah that's why it was particularly hard. If you keep looking, you can find some startup roles though I'm sure that don't have that requirement. DM me if you need more help
But seriously, what do your skills actually involve aside from the name of the field? I tried learning code but got totally filtered by JavaScript.
Yeah so a lot of my skills are data:
1. SQL
2. Python
3. Data Visualization (PowerBI / Tableau / etc.)
4. Excel
5. Data A***ysis
6. Survey a***ysis
Then there are soft skills/leadership skills
1. Agile / SCRUM
2. Prioritization
3. Communication (very important)
4. Leadership especially leading people who don't report to you
5. Collaborating w/ Developers
6. Structured problem solving
Then there are skills very specific to this role
1. Customer Support
2. Operations
3. User Experience
Seeeesh, 60 hours?! Does it ever get better?
The money sounds nice on the surface, but when do you ever get time to spend it when you’re not exhausted?
yeah once i get my legs under me more, i'll delegate more. hopefully will get down to 40 ish by month 3/6
How did you hear about the role / where did u apply?
I actually just researched a bunch of job posting places and found a role that I felt matched my previous experience.
the role didn't specifically say you needed to have product management experience (which like 95% of product manager roles say). Additionally, the role aligned really well with some unique experience I had
So I figured I'd go ahead and give it a shot and about 6 weeks later they responded to me
yeah that's why it was particularly hard. If you keep looking, you can find some startup roles though I'm sure that don't have that requirement. DM me if you need more help
I have bachelors degree and some office experience but not tech field related and I’m still having hard time finding an entry level job
I’m a dm you though
yeah once i get my legs under me more, i'll delegate more. hopefully will get down to 40 ish by month 3/6
Oh ok that’s really nice then. I legit thought you just had to work 60 a week forever for that type of a job lol
I have bachelors degree and some office experience but not tech field related and I’m still having hard time finding an entry level job
I’m a dm you though
Start some online courses (free or paid) to start building your tech skills.
Really really helps on the resume
Yeah so a lot of my skills are data:
1. SQL
2. Python
3. Data Visualization (PowerBI / Tableau / etc.)
4. Excel
5. Data A***ysis
6. Survey a***ysis
Then there are soft skills/leadership skills
1. Agile / SCRUM
2. Prioritization
3. Communication (very important)
4. Leadership especially leading people who don't report to you
5. Collaborating w/ Developers
6. Structured problem solving
Then there are skills very specific to this role
1. Customer Support
2. Operations
3. User Experience
Thanks for the answer. How early in life did you get started in this direction?
Start some online courses (free or paid) to start building your tech skills.
Really really helps on the resume
I’m starting data a***ytics apprenticeship in February till June
They teach SQL, Excel, Tableau, Python and few other stuff
Hopefully that will help me get my foot in the door
Yeah so I went to college for a bit then dropped out to work on a small startup with friends. It didn’t really work out at all so I needed something. I researched a lot and found a really small startup doing cool things. They had an entry level support position open that paid like 15 an hour. I took it and became lead of the team in 1.5 years.
Then I took a risk and did an internship (lost benefits and had to move). Internship was in the data field. Then I leveraged that internship to get an entry level a***yst job. Became a senior a***yst in a year and then leveraged that to get the product management job. Studied for like 100 hours because I had never been a product manager before.
congrats king
Yeah so a lot of my skills are data:
1. SQL
2. Python
3. Data Visualization (PowerBI / Tableau / etc.)
4. Excel
5. Data A***ysis
6. Survey a***ysis
Then there are soft skills/leadership skills
1. Agile / SCRUM
2. Prioritization
3. Communication (very important)
4. Leadership especially leading people who don't report to you
5. Collaborating w/ Developers
6. Structured problem solving
Then there are skills very specific to this role
1. Customer Support
2. Operations
3. User Experience
im going hard as f*** this year i look up to u op