bluegreenred

2y

every Drake thread yall argue about dumb s***

thegreatdivine

2y

This is a stupid point. So Far Gone has 18 songs, 2 removed from 20 songs. Take Care had 20 songs. He has always made long projects. Acting like it's something he started doing to juice streaming numbers is dumb.

Cielo Drive

2y

It's always a funny argument when they try to say he's stacking albums for streaming when So Far Gone and Take Care both existed well before then lol

thegreatdivine

2y

This is a stupid point. So Far Gone has 18 songs, 2 removed from 20 songs. Take Care had 20 songs. He has always made long projects. Acting like it's something he started doing to juice streaming numbers is dumb.

TheFader

2y

Bro you keep hitting it right on the money

Every project from So Far Gone to WATTBA had a distinct and cohesive style, vision, and theme.

He may have dabbled between rap and R&B throughout those albums, but all of the songs were rooted in the same artistic world.

Nowadays, we get projects from him where songs like Fountains, Way 2 Sexy, and F***ing Fans all exist on the same body of work, and it comes across like a jumbled mess.

And exactly like you said, the main reason that Honestly, Nevermind and Her Loss are his most loved projects since 2015 are because they both have a singular artistic focus in the same way that all of his 2009-2015 projects did

Cielo Drive

2y

Few things wrong in this post

So Far Gone, Take Care and IYRTITL were all close to 20 songs. He didn't just start doing those with Views lmao

And Dark Lane, Honestly Nevermind and Her Loss were not bloated

They're all 14 songs like NWTS with the exception of Her Loss that has solo songs from both Drake and 21

That's 3 out of the 5 projects he dropped after Scorpion

Cielo Drive

2y

It's always a funny argument when they try to say he's stacking albums for streaming when So Far Gone and Take Care both existed well before then lol

thegreatdivine

2y

My point is that Drake has always made a mix of rap/melodic rap & R&B music, dating back as far as So Far Gone. Yes, he might diversify the styles of rap like dabbling in New Orleans bounce or trap rap or more lyrical/boom-bap rap on other songs but they're all under the same umbrella of rap, even the melodic rap songs. Same goes for his R&B songs. He usually used to throw in 1 or 2 pop songs as well but he's since stopped doing that on his rap albums so they're usually just a mix of rap/R&B. That can't be taken as him trying a wide variety of styles when that's what he blew up doing and is what he has always done. Albums like Views/More Life are his most diverse projects sonically and in terms of the regional sounds he takes on but that's about it. HN is a dance album. Her Loss is a rap album. For All the Dogs is the usual rap/R&B Drake we get.

SABMAN TURNT

2y

my point is that, while he’s always done a mix of Rap/R&B songs, the albums are no longer cohesive with a clear and direct vision, aside from HNvm and Her Loss

all i’m saying is i’m not a fan of when artists try to put a song for everyone on their albums rather than making albums for one specific part of their audience, and if that is what they do, then the bare minimum is making sure there’s at least some sonic theme throughout the album that makes it feel like a cohesive body of work rather than just a compilation of really good songs that don’t actually have anything in common

TheFader

2y

That’s 2/6 long tracklists (only one hitting 20) from 2009 to 2015

Since 2016, 5/8 projects he’s released are well over 20 songs

You have to be obtuse to not see the difference

TheFader

2y

You 3/3

mangotflu

2y

you can't be serious lol. Thug has had one #1 in his entire 10 year career, which was a ft on a Camila song

I don't even think he has a song (even a ft) over 1bill on Spotify except Havana

He's the 108th most streamed artist on Spotify, like lets be real here Drake could easily get at LEAST 20 of the top 100 on his s*** instead

OVO Steve Carell

2y

HNVM > GKMC

so maybe having 20 + song is a good thing

OVO Steve Carell

2y

HNVM > GKMC

so maybe having 20 + song is a good thing

TheFader

2y

The only style on More Life that wasn’t really popular in the US at the time was the UK rap influenced songs, and that was like 2/23 tracks.

Every other style on that album was extremely trendy in the US in 2017, go back and relisten to it

SABMAN TURNT

2y

my point is that, while he’s always done a mix of Rap/R&B songs, the albums are no longer cohesive with a clear and direct vision, aside from HNvm and Her Loss

all i’m saying is i’m not a fan of when artists try to put a song for everyone on their albums rather than making albums for one specific part of their audience, and if that is what they do, then the bare minimum is making sure there’s at least some sonic theme throughout the album that makes it feel like a cohesive body of work rather than just a compilation of really good songs that don’t actually have anything in common

bluegreenred

2y

every Drake thread yall argue about dumb s***

TheFader

2y

I never said that he only cares about numbers

I said they are his main motivation

Y’all are acting like he doesn’t care about them at all

OVO Steve Carell

2y

HNVM > GKMC

so maybe having 20 + song is a good thing

Cielo Drive

2y

Views and CLB are not well over 20 songs, you're exaggerating

More Life, Scorpion and For All The Dogs are his only albums well over 20 songs

This argument you're trying to make doesn't make sense

mangotflu

2y

So if an artist isn't making cohesive projects, that means everything they're doing is purely for numbers?

This makes no sense lol, there's artists that purely love making songs & don't care anywhere near as much about bodies of work. You can't just put them in the "oh theyre doing this all for numbers" box. It's stupid

TheFader

2y

The point is that more than half of his projects since 2016 are bloated and over 20 records a piece

mangotflu

2y

Bruh what are you on? You're trying to tell me 20/22 of those tracks were extremely trendy in 2017? lol in 2017 the US only cared about trap, not island s*** like Blem or Passionfruit

There's like 3 rap songs on the whole project, the rest is either UK inspired or island inspired s*** that wasn't trendy at all

Views was exactly the same, no one wanted Views to be an R&B album, everyone wanted another rap album, R&B was dead as a genre in the US at that point

Cielo Drive

2y

20 song Drake projects didn't start in the streaming era