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  • Aug 8, 2020
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    This idea of being socially conservative but economically progressive isn't a real thing. Ppl only apply this to MLK because of his faith

    You’re telling me Malcolm X the messenger of Elijah Muhammed wasn’t socially conservative

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    You’re telling me Malcolm X the messenger of Elijah Muhammed wasn’t socially conservative

    What does this even mean

    Like what does social conservatives imply to you

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    What does this even mean

    Like what does social conservatives imply to you

    He was conservative on social issues? Lmao what else would that mean? The entire purpose of NOI is to bring faith and responsibility to the Black community. Strict marriage values, strict educational values, strict religious values. Abstinence from d**** and alcohol. Strict gender roles and so on. Not very liberal imo.

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    He was conservative on social issues? Lmao what else would that mean? The entire purpose of NOI is to bring faith and responsibility to the Black community. Strict marriage values, strict educational values, strict religious values. Abstinence from d**** and alcohol. Strict gender roles and so on. Not very liberal imo.

    Malcolm also broke off from them but I thought we were talking about mlk

  • Aug 8, 2020
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    Malcolm also broke off from them but I thought we were talking about mlk

    Oh no my bad I was still talking about Malcolm I have no foundation for saying MLK was socially conservative I don’t know that much about him.

    And yeah he broke off from NOI but was still Muslim and preaching similar things.

    Point is you’re right Malcolm X was not a Republican sympathizer and it’s gross seeing the same kind of people that would call the Black Panthers a terrorist organization try to re-write Malcolm’s history.

  • Aug 8, 2020
    allmygirlsdoyoga

    You think Kamala Harris will be better?

    no

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    Yall HAVE to stop ignoring the real reasons people don’t like Joe Biden HOLY S***. Wtf is wrong with yall.

    Why do you think we don’t like Joe Biden cuz he’s old? HE IS A RACIST EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INCARCERATION OF MILLIONS OF BLACK MEN. Who gives a f*** if he stutters a f*** ton? Trump is senile too. AND ALSO RACIST. Stop f***ing pretending that the only difference between these two won’t be climate change. And stop f***ing ignoring the genuine concern some Black people have for a potential Biden-Harris ticket.

    F***.

    While this isn't to absolve Biden of his role in the crime bill and its effect, nor flip your opinion on it, I think its important we make an effort to contextualize things, especially what will be distant past for many of us.

    A while back I wrote a post on the subject and we've had some good back and forth recently so I hope you take a look, in case there is any new information or understanding brought to light. It was an area I was personally motivated to dig deeper into to find some sense of reconciliation.

    ktt2.com/clearing-up-misinformation-surrounding-biden-and-the-1994-crime-bill-69478

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    While this isn't to absolve Biden of his role in the crime bill and its effect, nor flip your opinion on it, I think its important we make an effort to contextualize things, especially what will be distant past for many of us.

    A while back I wrote a post on the subject and we've had some good back and forth recently so I hope you take a look, in case there is any new information or understanding brought to light. It was an area I was personally motivated to dig deeper into to find some sense of reconciliation.

    https://ktt2.com/clearing-up-misinformation-surrounding-biden-and-the-1994-crime-bill-69478

    nice writeup, its been exhausting trying to inform people that the crime bill largely had the support of black leaders and that biden isnt solely to blame for it

  • Aug 9, 2020

    wowww

    im sure this thread is a GREAT read!

  • Aug 9, 2020

    tbh not as horrible as i thought it would be

  • Aug 9, 2020
    Bo Ceephus

    You're scum if you vote Trump or Kanye tbh.

    Noone is saying biden is great here. But he's an option that isnt complete f***ing chaos like we have now

    I agree with you but the chaos isn't ending under Biden. It just won't feel like they're a carnival barker stirring it.

  • Aug 9, 2020
    DwindlingSun

    While this isn't to absolve Biden of his role in the crime bill and its effect, nor flip your opinion on it, I think its important we make an effort to contextualize things, especially what will be distant past for many of us.

    A while back I wrote a post on the subject and we've had some good back and forth recently so I hope you take a look, in case there is any new information or understanding brought to light. It was an area I was personally motivated to dig deeper into to find some sense of reconciliation.

    https://ktt2.com/clearing-up-misinformation-surrounding-biden-and-the-1994-crime-bill-69478

    Yeah I remember this thread just reread it to refresh my memory.

    You brought up a lot of good points and I’m not sitting here claiming that Biden is the KKK leader Republican opportunists are trying to paint him out to be. But he is still responsible for his actions, in the same way Reagan and Clinton are for signing these terrible bills proposed by Congress. I see Biden in the same light I see Bloomberg. I don’t think he’s so racist to the point that he hates all Black people. I just think he inherently sees us as inferior. Same with Bloomberg and same with Trump. Trump just actually caters to racists in the country but in terms of actual policy the Black community is perhaps the group he’s hurt the least. Much less than Biden.

    Either way f*** Trump I kinda want Biden to win anyway at this point.

  • Aug 9, 2020
    decked

    nice writeup, its been exhausting trying to inform people that the crime bill largely had the support of black leaders and that biden isnt solely to blame for it

    So are we giving Reagan the same pass for the crack epidemic and private prisons?

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    It's hard to put Black Nationalism in a Conservative framework...

  • Aug 9, 2020
    Mulder

    It's hard to put Black Nationalism in a Conservative framework...

    Surprising number of people seem to be fine doing it anyway, admitedly in a very botched manner.

  • Aug 9, 2020
    KOLLAPS

    You ever been to Black people have zero cultural diversity and are not Black unless they vote for Biden?

    Enjoy voting for the other racist POS then.

  • Aug 9, 2020
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    SHAQUILLE

    What makes you think Biden won’t be complete chaos? He can’t even f***ing speak half the time

    Lmao
    You’re such a dumb piece of s***

  • Aug 9, 2020
    cozy

    Lmao
    You’re such a dumb piece of s***

    Your mother

  • Aug 9, 2020

    Kanye, you a disappointment