comparing the two situations is crazy

Fr. You could believe Travis was negligent but clearly he didn’t want anyone to die at his concert, whereas Ye is intentionally doing everything he’s doing.

They definitely gonna go to a secret location cause of that

Same logic applies tho, if he eventually disappears for a few months, in his case maybe a year, says he’s getting the help he needs. In a year and a half, you’ll see Nike Yeezys dropping again. I’m not even saying Adidas. The mental health card is extremely powerful.

I don’t think he’ll do it tho, he’s a stubborn idiot.

This.
Like, is it possible for him to repair all of the bridges he's burnt. I don't think his career surviving is up to him.

If he went back to rap, he needs to win over any producers and other rappers who don't mess with him anymore(.

Like, we know how Cudi feels. But wondering however others that were in his camp like Big Sean, Pusha T, Teyana Taylor, etc. feel about him.

I'm sure he could always get rappers nobody care about as a feature. Like Lil Pump or something. But doubt we'll see Jay Z on another Ye project at this point.

Do y'all think it's even possible? Like... even if they accept an apology from him, it's still a bad look to collab with him, to the public

If he does a brilliant project and cleans up his image. They’ll all go back to him, everyone is a cockroach and a bloodsucker in the industry.

i don't find this stuff funny, it worries me

its obvious the real plan here was to push the "overton window" further right in what is acceptable public discourse, kanye just opened the gates for that

when you got steven crowder (someone who is mainstream on the right) talking like this, it's not good, and its scary

"secular humanists with jewish last names" is just a variation of the same narrative that "its the jews who are somehow atheists and pose a threat to the christians", the nazis most famously used this rhetoric

ben shapiro or dennis praeger won't speak up about it because crowder is going after the "bad jews" so he isn't anti-semitic in their eyes

oh yeah would be so dumb if he didn’t

I’m not comparing the situations but imo the outcomes might be similar because ppl had done worse in the past with everybody eventually moving on. That was my point

No one, and I mean no one wants to be affiliated with a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer.
A swastika is the one symbol that will get your ass beat while wearing in basically any part of world, that s*** is a no-go everywhere

Nike would never even think of taking that type of business risk.
Not to mention Ye is far too unpredictable, why take a gamble on a man who is a consistent PR nightmare and now self professed Nazi sympathizer

I feel like before the hitler and nazi thing. He might have been able to come back if he took a break. A lot of people have a soft spot for ye due to his presence. But that hitler clip going to live forever idk how he makes it back from that one

there’s a lot of money in being the artist that “helped kanye get back to being kanye”

but it’s gonna take years, bc everyone is waiting for him to attempt to do music and clown on how bad it is

but after the first two f*** ups, i think ppl will still be scrambling to work with him i mean we can talk about cancel culture as much as we want but plenty of ppl still be working across different industries who have done far worse

This is not going to clear up nearly as much as some of you think

I know Ye fans want him to say "I'm sincerely sorry everyone" and then go to Hawaii and record MBDTF 2. Make some new cool shoes and then he rides off in to the sunset

But he has burned far too many bridges and crossed far too many lines, and he has shown absolutely no sign of stopping or slowing down.
His condition is just going to worsen, and so will his reputation

there’s far too much to gain out of being the artist that “saved” him.

a lot of his grand narrative is about redemption and he knows that at the end of the day everyone loves a redemption story

now ppl who haven’t even entertained this dude in years are giving him the time of day

i worry that he’s using it to his advantage and will find a way to make some redemption arc apart of his political campaign…

we literally had the best album out of him for years come out just last gear whAT THE F*** HAPPENED !!!

The symbol of Messianic Judaism

Mixed it with hardline BHI and Southern Baptism

An eclectic mix of beliefs

Thinks "Messianic Jews" as well as the Black Hebrew Israelites are the "true" Jews and that the Ashkenazis are fake, that's probably why he went to that church which practices it in their congregation

I honestly thought he was shouting out the GDs as an ode to his roots in Chicago, but in this context, it's quite obvious.

Can he even make that brilliant "comeback album" without any producers or composers by his side?

seems like he would need to be seen in a positive light first before he makes the comeback album

I think you're underestimating how difficult it would be for him to make a comeback album with some big named producers to back him.
He'd need to earn public respect back.

Any notable producers likely don't care about "potential" clout on a Ye album. Collating with him could kill any fanbase they have.

I wouldn't be shocked if Apple and Spotify didn't even allow him to host the album. At the very least they're not going let it have any kind of attention.

i think you’re underestimating how much profit triumphs over everything, and sadly

this guy can turn a profit because of how much attention he can garner

this isn’t even defending him, i just seriously think peoples morals are low and if he plays the mental illness thing well enough, it’s not out the question

but it’s far too fresh in the current moment

i’d hate to say people back him up and try to revive his career but it’s well within the realm of possibility given how f***ed american culture is

If Kanye dropped album without doing an entire GOOD apology campaign, I highly doubt he'd do big numbers.

The Hitler comments are 50x worse than anything he's said in his career. This is the straw that caused him to lose even some of his hardest d*** riders

just went thru the kanye reddit and one of the worst parts of all this, is how the man himself made it so easy to erase all the context that destroyed his mental health in the first place

it’s so easy to forget how racism and self hatred played a part in all of this

i wish it wasn’t true but it’s true it’s really over and this niggas went so beyond evil with it

100%

but i do feel like if there’s an organic apology (and narcissists are so good at that) we will all be surprised how well he’s received

Idk how the stats work but he still has hundreds of millions of monthly listeners on Spotify

Surely a release from him would still approach 100k first week, he’s not doing under 50 which is still a respectable number for most artists

He could drop right now and everyone would listen to see what he’s saying. Would be a legit success