Nov 27, 2023·1 reply
JaysonI definitely think majority of KTT only knows black people through rap music
OPNov 27, 2023·1 replySkinn Foley
This was the aesthetic of mainstream rap from 2005-2009 lol
Like s*** was in shambles and the shambles began with 2001
This was a myspace staple dont do that
- OPNov 27, 2023·2 replies
And i was in my backpacker bag HEAVY during that time. Blackalicious, cannibal ox, Hieroglyphics, Dead Prez, and Little Brother WHEW
Nov 27, 2023·2 repliesKanye went from being a Christian pastor to GD chief to full blown nazi in a 6 month span lmao
- Nov 27, 2023insertcoolnamehere
This was a myspace staple dont do that
Eminem was one percocet away from collabing with $pongebob on the "Ass Like That" remix
Nov 27, 2023·2 repliesEquivalentWholeDrake didn't need to do anything. Drake has probably had the most rap beef out of any rapper on wax. So naturally talking yourself up and the tough guy s*** comes with it. And Drake doesn't try to be gangster. He lets you know he's got people on payroll that will touch you, and it isn't untrue.
If you really think Drake telling people to kidnap niggas and giving orders like "don't pistol whip him and definitely do not shoot his ass til you get permission", the d***riding has reached your brain and you're too far gone
- Nov 27, 2023SINGH
Kanye went from being a Christian pastor to GD chief to full blown nazi in a 6 month span lmao
Meds are NEEDED
Nov 27, 2023Drill music is a cancer to the community
- Nov 27, 2023insertcoolnamehere
Ehhhhh I dont think bro was catching flack for being vulnerable. The homophobia was there and that was wrong but vulnerability alone wasnt what niggas was killing him for.
Think the way he went about it was something niggas was killing him for (and a lot of TC lyrics are kinda…mad cringe lets keep it a buck)
yeah Take Care is a great album but a lot of those lyrics are 😬
it’s part of the album’s charm though
Nov 27, 2023·3 repliesinsertcoolnamehere
!https://youtu.be/jYunOAqPCKk?si=dTXi1ujhEEJ96Q_d
Inspired by @browser (cause it should be a thread on this aspect of this s***), does rap have a pressure on artists to “ portray” themselves as hard?
From Chris Brown’s temporary blood membership, to Ye temporarily walking round like he big GD during Donda 2 era, to Carti gangbanging on wax, to Drake’s friends that “can’t take a joke”, to Ja Morant (cause bball and rap are relatives), to Sada Baby joining the bloods at 22, to Tupac…pretty much doing the same thing, and other cases
Is there this influence and pressure that is put on niggas within this rap/culture s*** that makes it so ppl have to act hard or more rougher than how they really are? I think back to old Lupe interviews where he talked about how even though his background is really from there (and as its been validated by friends of him throughout these recent years) that he hates the hood and tried to move past that side of himself and not glorify it.
And how we used to laugh and meme niggas like slim jesus out the goddamn room. And now we unironically take cacs like Lil Mabu (who was a model student at a prep school) serious now.
Does this rap s*** put a battery in the back of niggas that otherwise woulda just been cool niggas that didn’t have to mob boss or gangbang and affiliate with niggas they never knew until they got rich?
tl;dr: cause honestly Vince Staples said it best
!https://youtu.be/QUsepD-Z3kI?si=nhrlpy4hwAgCjgs0The worst thing that happened to rap was making niggas feel like they’re lame or corny for not fw street s***.
In today’s climate you can’t even be respected as a rapper without being a a hood nigga or a street adjacent nigga.
It’s to the point where you even have anime niggas like Juice (RIP) who felt like they had to throw in some street into their music.
Nov 27, 2023I feel bad for Tay-K knowing his story
His parents were part of the Insane set of the Crips in LA and they moved from there to Dallas to get away from that life but Tay-K still wanted to be a banger so he did a home invasion and went on the run and killed somebody and got locked up for years
He was a talented rapper too, could’ve really made something of himself but he had to chase after the image
- Nov 27, 2023insertcoolnamehere
And i was in my backpacker bag HEAVY during that time. Blackalicious, cannibal ox, Hieroglyphics, Dead Prez, and Little Brother WHEW
Gonna say a wildly unpopular and potentially bad take
But Cold Vein>Madvillainy
DOOM a GOAT though
Nov 27, 2023·1 replyNo it's a made up problem
- Nov 27, 2023·1 replyCRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
It's such a weird vibe on this site at times and it makes me feel uncomfortable
- Nov 27, 2023·1 replyFree YoungBoy
The worst thing that happened to rap was making niggas feel like they’re lame or corny for not fw street s***.
In today’s climate you can’t even be respected as a rapper without being a a hood nigga or a street adjacent nigga.
It’s to the point where you even have anime niggas like Juice (RIP) who felt like they had to throw in some street into their music.
This is only if you're chasing mainstream success though
The underground's done a tremendous job in disowning a lot of its corny "real hip hop" s*** and is more focused on the music and authenticity than it's been in a long time. This goes for underground trap music as well.
As long as you don't try to act like you're something you're not and who you are isn't some psycho right-wing s***, nobody should care how you present yourself in rap, and few people at this point do. There's just this profound insecurity in the mainstream that's sharper and more evident than it's ever been aside from maybe the worst of the 2000s
- Nov 27, 2023·edited
We went from real street dudes shying away from their connections to the street to suburban kids becoming caricatures
- OPNov 27, 2023Free YoungBoy
The worst thing that happened to rap was making niggas feel like they’re lame or corny for not fw street s***.
In today’s climate you can’t even be respected as a rapper without being a a hood nigga or a street adjacent nigga.
It’s to the point where you even have anime niggas like Juice (RIP) who felt like they had to throw in some street into their music.
Yessir.
- Nov 27, 2023Jayson
It's such a weird vibe on this site at times and it makes me feel uncomfortable
You not lying, some folks be doing too much lmao
- Nov 27, 2023·1 reply
A big thing that changed too was that "street life" was portrayed as brutal and undesirable by much of gangsta rap until The Chronic era, and became outright glamorized on 2001, which is ironic because Dre was never actually in the streets like that. Bro was dressed in sequins making dance music until he realized Lonzo wasn't going to make him a millionaire.
- Nov 27, 2023·2 replies
It absolutely does do that. Even Vince's advice is backhanded and not super clear. Implying being a secure man is somehow b***h tier. We need to stop putting toxic machoism front and center in environments where young black men are growing and learning.
People both inside and outside the community need to stop stigmatizing and forcing young black males into a certain box, and then chastising them regardless. So what if you like learning? Good on you bro. You like sports also? Cool. People end up being opposite sides of the coin where you either macho af and gangsta or nerd who watches anime. How about we stop stereotyping the young men in our community and let them grow organically and healthily.
- Nov 27, 2023·1 reply
JbreezyondeckFeel like a lot of these dudes are getting extorted and they can claim by association is the reality. Also there’s some romanticizing of being from the streets that is compounded by the fact that rap music is basically centered around these days. Overall just not a good look and gives me the feeling that we need a reset like we did in the mid to late 00s
Crazy how the people who reset it in the late 2000s led it back to need to be reset again
- Nov 27, 2023·1 replySkinn Foley
This is only if you're chasing mainstream success though
The underground's done a tremendous job in disowning a lot of its corny "real hip hop" s*** and is more focused on the music and authenticity than it's been in a long time. This goes for underground trap music as well.
As long as you don't try to act like you're something you're not and who you are isn't some psycho right-wing s***, nobody should care how you present yourself in rap, and few people at this point do. There's just this profound insecurity in the mainstream that's sharper and more evident than it's ever been aside from maybe the worst of the 2000s
I agree but it shouldn’t be true at all. Mainstream or underground. Niggas should feel comfortable expressing themselves without having mix in some street talk.
Summrs for example has a lot to say and a unique perspective to give but it gets drowned out in him trying to do a YB or Keef cosplay
- Nov 27, 2023
COWBOY WAYNEnvr heard of lil mabu
Biggest cornball to exist
- Nov 27, 2023·1 replyPlight
No it's a made up problem
and not the ones you made up about Kendrick in the other thread?
- Nov 27, 2023·2 repliesFree YoungBoy
I agree but it shouldn’t be true at all. Mainstream or underground. Niggas should feel comfortable expressing themselves without having mix in some street talk.
Summrs for example has a lot to say and a unique perspective to give but it gets drowned out in him trying to do a YB or Keef cosplay
Which is wild too because if you really pay more attention to Keef and YB's larger catalog, a lot of their music is trying to talk about how painful "street life" can be, not trying to make it seem cool or fun. YB is particularly good at that
