Jun 24, 2022thegreatdivineIt's just amazing to me that some of you really believe that ANY kind of music Drake releases should automatically be successful, simply because it was released by Drake and I don't know if y'all are choosing to be that stupid to troll and to go at Drake fans or if y'all are really just that stupid.
The mental gymnastics award goes to
Jun 24, 2022·3 repliesGeneral public has no frame of reference for Drake making straight up house music for an entire album. Passionfruit is the closest to that, and that’s just one song that’s far removed enough from House for the untrained ear to not even hear house when they listen to it
It was always obvious that Honestly Nevermind would never perform crazy. But that’s dope in its own way cause it was clear that Drake truly didn’t care about that this time. Which is refreshing to see from such a huge artist that so many types of people in the public expect certain type of music from
e t 👽Jun 24, 2022·1 replythegreatdivineLike, just look at the conversation that's been going on online simply because Drake released a dance album with house music influences.
Look at how ignorant people have been with their takes and how they've exposed how little they know about that kind of music. Yet, you expect those same people to support the album simply because it's a Drake album?
The very same thing Drake fans have been saying: that people aren't supporting the album BECAUSE it's a dance album is being proven right in front of us in how the two most streamed songs off the album are:
1. The pure rap song.
2. The song with a dance beat that features Drake rapping.And y'all are still going on, talking about "but but but it should do well! It's a Drake album after all!"
Y'all are so f***ing stupid, man and I get trolling Drake stans back, that's nothing if not fair, but the way y'all have abandoned ALL SENSE just to do that this week has been sad to watch lmao.
Drake is popular, talented and varied enough to be able to craft a hit dance song that would dominate the charts. That’s not a stretch statement by any means. He just didn’t do it this time.
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replye t
The point is Drake, as arguably the most popular artist in America, clearly has a major baseline advantage over basically every other artist when dropping anything.
Using the "Drake is big so anything he drops should be successful" excuse is thinking stupidly. I'm sure you probably expect a Drake country album to smash the same way a Drake rap album does.
- Jun 24, 2022BRAVE
General public has no frame of reference for Drake making straight up house music for an entire album. Passionfruit is the closest to that, and that’s just one song that’s far removed enough from House for the untrained ear to not even hear house when they listen to it
It was always obvious that Honestly Nevermind would never perform crazy. But that’s dope in its own way cause it was clear that Drake truly didn’t care about that this time. Which is refreshing to see from such a huge artist that so many types of people in the public expect certain type of music from
Well said 🎯
- Jun 24, 2022
K DOG 99#1 album and #1 song and 3 others in the top 10 isn't successful enough anymore
No, let's call it a flop so the next time Kendrick drops and doesn't manage even that, there'll be zero debates that his album flopped. That's what they want.
- e t 👽Jun 24, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
Using the "Drake is big so anything he drops should be successful" excuse is thinking stupidly. I'm sure you probably expect a Drake country album to smash the same way a Drake rap album does.
I’m not saying anything Drake drops SHOULD be successful. I’m just saying he has a baseline advantage stemming directly from his popularity. If The Chainsmokers dropped this same exact album HN, they might not even hit the billboard 200.
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replye t
I was pointing out that people were actually listening to it and it wasn’t all just bundles.
When did I ever say it was just bundles, though? The BTS #1 hits all had from 25M+ US streams and above. It's not like that had zero streams. My point was that their pure sales (thanks to bundles) is what gave them the #1 debut because it boosted their chart points.
- e t 👽Jun 24, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
When did I ever say it was just bundles, though? The BTS #1 hits all had from 25M+ US streams and above. It's not like that had zero streams. My point was that their pure sales (thanks to bundles) is what gave them the #1 debut because it boosted their chart points.
Well, people in this thread are saying that nobody fw dance so a dance song being nearly the most streamed track of the week goes in the face of that.
- Jun 24, 2022·edited·3 repliesBRAVE
General public has no frame of reference for Drake making straight up house music for an entire album. Passionfruit is the closest to that, and that’s just one song that’s far removed enough from House for the untrained ear to not even hear house when they listen to it
It was always obvious that Honestly Nevermind would never perform crazy. But that’s dope in its own way cause it was clear that Drake truly didn’t care about that this time. Which is refreshing to see from such a huge artist that so many types of people in the public expect certain type of music from
People forget, but Passionfruit flopped on the charts. It peaked at #8 and only spent 1 week in the top 10. Yes, it reached #1 on Urban/Rhythmic radio but by no means was it a chart hit. Most of the streams it ended up gaining happened after it had dropped off the Hot 100 lol. Signs? Flopped. Won't Be Late? Flopped. Every attempt Drake has made at a dance record in the last 5/6 years, have all flopped, yet people are surprised that an entire album of that sound isn't smasbing all the charts lol.
You say this and they'll say you're coping when it's just common sense.
Jun 24, 2022jesus christ some of y'all taking this Drake flop really hard
its not that serious
- Jun 24, 2022thegreatdivine· edited
People forget, but Passionfruit flopped on the charts. It peaked at #8 and only spent 1 week in the top 10. Yes, it reached #1 on Urban/Rhythmic radio but by no means was it a chart hit. Most of the streams it ended up gaining happened after it had dropped off the Hot 100 lol. Signs? Flopped. Won't Be Late? Flopped. Every attempt Drake has made at a dance record in the last 5/6 years, have all flopped, yet people are surprised that an entire album of that sound isn't smasbing all the charts lol.
You say this and they'll say you're coping when it's just common sense.
You already told people Drake flopped and to stop coping yourself. Which one is it?
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replye t
Drake is popular, talented and varied enough to be able to craft a hit dance song that would dominate the charts. That’s not a stretch statement by any means. He just didn’t do it this time.
That isn't what you've been saying the last 5 days. Don't change your tune now. You've been posting Spotify numbers, screaming that the album is flopping and comparing it's numbers with that of Kendrick's album, a rap album, his first in 5 years, acting shocked at why Drake's dance album isn't performing better, when there's enough proof in the songs with dance elements Drake has released in the last couple of years which all flopped because his fans didn't care for them.
- Jun 24, 2022·1 reply
Cope
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine· edited
People forget, but Passionfruit flopped on the charts. It peaked at #8 and only spent 1 week in the top 10. Yes, it reached #1 on Urban/Rhythmic radio but by no means was it a chart hit. Most of the streams it ended up gaining happened after it had dropped off the Hot 100 lol. Signs? Flopped. Won't Be Late? Flopped. Every attempt Drake has made at a dance record in the last 5/6 years, have all flopped, yet people are surprised that an entire album of that sound isn't smasbing all the charts lol.
You say this and they'll say you're coping when it's just common sense.
I think it’s really bugging people out to realize that Drake’s music is high demand in the context of his brand of hiphop and not high demand simply because he’s Drake
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replye t
I’m not saying anything Drake drops SHOULD be successful. I’m just saying he has a baseline advantage stemming directly from his popularity. If The Chainsmokers dropped this same exact album HN, they might not even hit the billboard 200.
If you understand this then why have you been using Spotify numbers to insist the album has been flopping and saying it should have been performing on par with how Drake's music usually does? Isn't that because you believe anything Drake drops should be successful? I'm confused.
- Jun 24, 2022e t
Well, people in this thread are saying that nobody fw dance so a dance song being nearly the most streamed track of the week goes in the face of that.
Sigh. I don't know what else to say to you, man. I really don't.
Jun 24, 2022·2 repliesthegreatdivineIt's just amazing to me that some of you really believe that ANY kind of music Drake releases should automatically be successful, simply because it was released by Drake and I don't know if y'all are choosing to be that stupid to troll and to go at Drake fans or if y'all are really just that stupid.
Nah let's be real. People said that anything that kendrick dropped should of been successful just off how big of an artist he is, regardless how the album is and that his album not doing as expected was indicator of it not connecting.
Same should apply for drake no ?
- Jun 24, 2022BRAVE
I think it’s really bugging people out to realize that Drake’s music is high demand in the context of his brand of hiphop and not high demand simply because he’s Drake
That's not a surprise to me at all. That's part of the reason why he's never given us a straight album with 0 rap before. Even this album has 1 straight rap song and that's been the most successful song, further proving the point of what his audience likes and supports the most from him.
- e t 👽Jun 24, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
That isn't what you've been saying the last 5 days. Don't change your tune now. You've been posting Spotify numbers, screaming that the album is flopping and comparing it's numbers with that of Kendrick's album, a rap album, his first in 5 years, acting shocked at why Drake's dance album isn't performing better, when there's enough proof in the songs with dance elements Drake has released in the last couple of years which all flopped because his fans didn't care for them.
Show me where I acted shocked HN wasn’t performing better. I was posting Spotify streams because y’all were circlejerking those daily for MM&TBS.
And the only comparison I made was to We Cry Together. And yes, it is quite shocking that steaming pile of trash outstreamed almost every song on Drake’s album. Every song on HN is at least 1000x better and more listenable than We Cry Together.
- Jun 24, 2022Oblivion X
Nah let's be real. People said that anything that kendrick dropped should of been successful just off how big of an artist he is, regardless how the album is and that his album not doing as expected was indicator of it not connecting.
Same should apply for drake no ?
Yep. I prefer HN to Mr Morale but it’s funny how now it’s all about nuance and breaking down why the people aren’t fw the album but when Kendrick dropped a schizo album w a few mainstream ish songs in there they didn’t wanna hear it
Jun 24, 2022·1 replyIt kind of is both him being a new genre for him and him utilizing a skill he doesn't have anymore for most of these tracks which is singing. Biggest song on here is a rap song with a rap beat but sticky is also high which is a rap song with a dance beat so i don't think the dance beats are the issue tbh.
- Jun 24, 2022·1 replybigbelts
It kind of is both him being a new genre for him and him utilizing a skill he doesn't have anymore for most of these tracks which is singing. Biggest song on here is a rap song with a rap beat but sticky is also high which is a rap song with a dance beat so i don't think the dance beats are the issue tbh.
He’s not a good singer
- Jun 24, 2022SHAQUILLE
He’s not a good singer
Yeah and i think that's what some people are missing when they just focus on him being in a different genre. The production on the album is great but the singing is not and that's what he does on most tracks.