100%. I think any musician capable of doing arena shows will have rabid fans like that. Some more than others, but it definitely exists if you’re selling 20,000 tickets a night

Yup, at some point you attract stans when you are that big no matter how you present yourself

Also I saw someone bring up post but fr what happened to him?? This guy has the highest certified song of all time but he really fell off now

Combination of various factors: took too long in between album releases after Hollywood’s Bleeding, alienated many of his hip-hop fans who helped him blow up, and his return album in 2022 was kind of a dud for most people.

He definitely still has a fanbase, but he’s not as big now as his trajectory was pointed back in 2018/2019

Same but from the videos iv seen it seems its just a middle class family affair

2021 pretty much confirmed this, he almost sold out every listening party although the "concerts" were announced 1 week in advance

he just stopped caring about it

I feel like alienating his hip hop fans was the dumbest thing, I get wanting to go for a new style but like all your biggest hits are hip hop bro, surely he realized he had a more hip hop fanbase then pop

yeah I'm sure there's some but yeah I'd bet that it'll be less than 1% of the amount of girls obsessed with Harry. Especially in Europe it's like half of every girl under 25 loves Harry

saw someone i follow posting lil tjay tickets

there’s no way anyone would do that unless they’re down bad for him

Ed Sheeran is genuinely a weird artist tho cos his numbers are dead in the US meanwhile he sells out stadums for fun

its like they just remember Shape of You etc and they're like oh yeah sure lets go. Same as how U2 etc are tour monsters I guess

You answered your own question

But why isn't that also happening for Post? that's what I'm confused about. Ed is defo a better performer but I'd still expect Post to be doing a lot better

The world is bigger than streaming numbers and American listeners my guy.

Post started his career as a rapper, most of his fans from 2015 until ~2020 were hip hop nerds. He changed his style and also his genre since then and alienated a lot of his core fans. Do you think his old fans are really f***ing with Austin? Hell no and therefore they don't go to his concerts

Meanwhile, Ed has stayed true to his music even if his latest projects aren't doing so well anymore, he's still making stuff his fans love and you're kinda downplaying all the big hits he's had in the past (Post had big hits too, but Ed was everywhere). Also many fans are over 30 and are just going to fun because they have the money

He’s had exactly one. The Larry Hoover show

The handicap given to rappers is crazy, now they're too ugly to fill out venues?

Just off the top of my head

KSG at camp flognaw, Larry Hoover, countless Sunday services (the Joel Osteen one was fire), donda show 2 where he(actor) floated away and 3 where he rebuilt his home and set himself(actor) on fire

But he mostly plays the old songs everyone loves though

It just doesn't make sense that a dude with 34b streams on Spotify alone in the last 7 years isn't doing much better than he is

Post's reputation just changed too much, idk anyway why he stopped with rapping

All Donda listening parties were fire but he ain't performed s*** so they don't count

post absolutely has bigger hits but he doesn’t motivate anyone to want to pay their hard earned money just to see him

Ed has way bigger hits fym

Yeah idk somethings very wrong there lmao. I've watched a few vids of his tours and it just seems... boring. He's just on the stage slurring his words with a few dudes around him playing guitar. I guess these days people expect more of a show like Drake/Taylor/Weeknd have been doing with the set designs etc

More hits my fault. Ed has bigger hits but post has way more especially in the US

Trav still projected those numbers? I could of seen this around 350k range