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  • Oct 23, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    All I'm seeing in this thread right now:

  • Oct 23, 2023
    quadra

    Damn genre didn't matter when HNVM dropped now it does

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    quadra

    Damn genre didn't matter when HNVM dropped now it does

    Cap

    Y'all delusional dumb Drake stans always come with the excuse that HNVM is a "dance" album and thats why it only sold 200k

  • Oct 23, 2023
    Kennochio

    The Leo Nigga make my brain hurt lol

    If you find yourself agreeing with Divine, you’re most likely either delusional or an idiot

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    It’s like niggas really don’t know how to have a conversation that involves nuance and context. Everything gotta be in extremes

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    shaleirose

    It’s like niggas really don’t know how to have a conversation that involves nuance and context. Everything gotta be in extremes

    This is the worst post I’ve ever read

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    Ultimate Warrior

    This is the worst post I’ve ever read

    You believe The Weeknd can’t sing, any other opinion you have is irrelevant

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    shaleirose

    You believe The Weeknd can’t sing, any other opinion you have is irrelevant

    He can’t

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    Ultimate Warrior

    He can’t

    “Steph Curry isn’t good at basketball”

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    shaleirose

    “Steph Curry isn’t good at basketball”

    Steph Curry probably sings better than the Weeknd no cap

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    Ultimate Warrior

    Steph Curry probably sings better than the Weeknd no cap

    You’re objectively wrong, but okay

  • shaleirose

    You’re objectively wrong, but okay

    I said probably

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    Ultimate Warrior

    He can’t

    As someone who just saw him live performing over 40 songs a few days ago, I'm happy to say you are 100% wrong

  • Oct 23, 2023

    I thought 184k was his third week numbers, wow.

  • jack johnson

    As someone who just saw him live performing over 40 songs a few days ago, I'm happy to say you are 100% wrong

    Change your username, don’t defile continuum like that

  • Oct 23, 2023
    mov

    Cap

    Y'all delusional dumb Drake stans always come with the excuse that HNVM is a "dance" album and thats why it only sold 200k

    That's what the post me—

    Nvm.

  • Oct 23, 2023

    Idiot.

  • Oct 24, 2023
    jynth

    yeah I can already tell what’s abt to happen in here

    drake stans itt: please don’t let trolls bait u into randomly hating on bad bunny for no reason

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Expert

    Ya'll just hating to hate. Bad Bunny is dropping albums in a different language and still putting up wild numbers. He literally propelled spanish music to mainstream and kept it there. He did a stadium tour selling out places at prices no rapper can even get close to. Give him his dues.

    And this is just in America. You go globally and his pull is bigger compared to any rapper.

    How about this for a litmus test? Bad Bunny just announced an Arena tour. Let's compare his numbers with Drake/Morgan Wallen at the same venue.

    @thegreatdivine if you think Drake really is bigger than Bad Bunny rn, why not make a ban bet with saying Drake's ARENA tour will do more numbers than Bad Bunny next tour? It's apples to apples and bad bunny is doing this after a non commericlal album which is a "flop"

    I literally had Drake floor tickets for like 300 bucks like a month ago.

    You cap nigga
    Drake floor was definitely not 300

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    shaleirose

    It’s like niggas really don’t know how to have a conversation that involves nuance and context. Everything gotta be in extremes

    What's the nuance? You have used:
    "Bad Bunny doesn't make music in English."
    "His latest album is a latin trap album, not a reggaeton album."
    "The success of Un Verano Sin Ti was abnormal, so that shouldn't be the expectation for every Bad Bunny album."
    "You can only discuss Bad Bunny's success and popularity using global numbers, not US numbers."

    All as excuses and that's all they are — excuses. There's no "nuance" to be had. Even you were projecting upwards of 400k as the debut figure for his latest album when it was announced. That would have been well over what Un Verano Sin Ti debuted with so how is it that when the album dropped and started bleeding streams and the first HDD projection numbers made it clear it wouldn't debut anywhere close to where Un Verano Sin Ti debuted, the excuses started flying?

    That's when you started bringing up Spotify Global numbers and insisting that now, we couldn't discuss Bad Bunny's US numbers as a way to measure his popularity because that's insanity because he's a global artist lmao.

    So, the guy who again, sold out an arena tour and a stadium tour in the US last year, had the biggest album in the US last year and was the biggest artist in the US last year, can all of a sudden no longer be judged off his US numbers because he's a latin artist. That's something you wouldn't be saying if Bad Bunny's album debuted with 500k units. And that's where your excuses become embarrassing.

  • Oct 24, 2023

    At no point did I even say Bad Bunny's album "flopped." I've only ever used the term "underperformed." I'm also not mocking his numbers in any way. All I'm asking for is for the excuses to stop and for people to simply admit his latest album underperformed and not for the myriad of reasons/excuses they brought up but y'all would rather jump over silly hoops with the excuses than do that lmao. Y'all got it, man. I've seen all I need to see.

  • Oct 24, 2023
    jynth

    yeah I can already tell what’s abt to happen in here

    drake stans itt: please don’t let trolls bait u into randomly hating on bad bunny for no reason

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    thegreatdivine

    What's the nuance? You have used:
    "Bad Bunny doesn't make music in English."
    "His latest album is a latin trap album, not a reggaeton album."
    "The success of Un Verano Sin Ti was abnormal, so that shouldn't be the expectation for every Bad Bunny album."
    "You can only discuss Bad Bunny's success and popularity using global numbers, not US numbers."

    All as excuses and that's all they are — excuses. There's no "nuance" to be had. Even you were projecting upwards of 400k as the debut figure for his latest album when it was announced. That would have been well over what Un Verano Sin Ti debuted with so how is it that when the album dropped and started bleeding streams and the first HDD projection numbers made it clear it wouldn't debut anywhere close to where Un Verano Sin Ti debuted, the excuses started flying?

    That's when you started bringing up Spotify Global numbers and insisting that now, we couldn't discuss Bad Bunny's US numbers as a way to measure his popularity because that's insanity because he's a global artist lmao.

    So, the guy who again, sold out an arena tour and a stadium tour in the US last year, had the biggest album in the US last year and was the biggest artist in the US last year, can all of a sudden no longer be judged off his US numbers because he's a latin artist. That's something you wouldn't be saying if Bad Bunny's album debuted with 500k units. And that's where your excuses become embarrassing.

    The point is doing backflips over your head.

    Someone ITT said verbatim: “199K? I thought Bad Bunny was a global superstar?”

    To which I stated that using US sales figures to judge the global popularity of a Latin artist is an idiotic practice.

    Which I then followed up by saying that two things can be true: Bad Bunny’s new album had an underwhelming sales week in the US, and he is still a global superstar, arguably one of the five biggest artists in the world right now.

    The nuance is that Bad Bunny’s US numbers and his global stardom are mutually exclusive ideas. He doesn’t need to have a crazy sales week in the USA to be considered one of the biggest artists on the planet, because he is that huge in other parts of the world.

    Yes, the album underperformed in the US, full stop. No one is making excuses for that. We’re just saying his US sales figures do not define his global status, since that’s what users ITT were trying to posit.

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