shaleirose

3y

The point is doing backflips over your head.

Someone ITT said verbatim: “199K? I thought Bad Bunny was a global superstar?”

To which I stated that using US sales figures to judge the global popularity of a Latin artist is an idiotic practice.

Which I then followed up by saying that two things can be true: Bad Bunny’s new album had an underwhelming sales week in the US, and he is still a global superstar, arguably one of the five biggest artists in the world right now.

The nuance is that Bad Bunny’s US numbers and his global stardom are mutually exclusive ideas. He doesn’t need to have a crazy sales week in the USA to be considered one of the biggest artists on the planet, because he is that huge in other parts of the world.

Yes, the album underperformed in the US, full stop. No one is making excuses for that. We’re just saying his US sales figures do not define his global status, since that’s what users ITT were trying to posit.

shaleirose

3y

UVST was an anomaly in the US, that shouldn’t be the standard Bad Bunny is held to for the rest of his career (sales wise). But I do agree that the new album was a slight underperformance in the US. But at the same time, that doesn’t mean he’s still not huge globally, because he undoubtedly is, whether he sells 100K copies or a million copies in the US

shaleirose

3y

It’s because y’all act like these artists aren’t hot anymore when in reality they just perform better in markets across the globe.

Also, using a Spanish artist’s US numbers to gauge how popular they are is the definition of insanity

shaleirose

3y

The guy literally does not make music in English

mov

3y

4 posts in a row

Mental illness

shaleirose

3y

I said the exact point I was making in each 4 of those posts and she still doesn’t get it

thegreatdivine

3y

UVST was an anomaly in the US, that shouldn’t be the standard Bad Bunny is held to for the rest of his career (sales wise).

"No one is making excuses." 🤡

shaleirose

3y

But I do agree that the new album was a slight underperformance in the US. But at the same time, that doesn’t mean he’s still not huge globally, because he undoubtedly is, whether he sells 100K copies or a million copies in the US

Like what is not clicking for you?

thegreatdivine

3y

"We should no longer hold artists to a standard after they've had their massive commercial breakthrough year" seems to be something only reserved for Bad Bunny. Part of the reasons why Travis Scott resorted to desperation antics to give himself the biggest first week possible was so no one would say he'd fallen off from how successful he was perceived to be back in 2018. He knows perception is everything and does all he can to play that game. If Utopia had debuted with 200k units, y'all would have called it a flop despite him only having ONE previous album that had ever done 200k first week.

If Hollywood's Bleeding had done 200k first week after Beerbongs and Bentleys debuted with 461k units, y'all would have called it a flop, despite Post Malone only having ONE previous album that had ever done 200k first week.

If Fine Line had done 100k first week after Harry Styles debuted with 230k units, y'all would have called it a flop, despite Harry Styles only having ONE previous album that had ever done 200k first week.

If One Thing at a Time had done 150k first week after Dangerous debuted with 265k units, y'all would have called it a flop, despite Morgan Wallen only having ONE previous album that had ever done 150k first week.

I could go on and on but that's the gist of things. Whenever an artist has a breakout year, we always expect their follow-up album to perform better. That's why people expected the follow-up to DAMN. to do 1M first week.

Bad Bunny simply failed to live up to the commercial expectations of the follow-up to his massive breakthrough album. It's not a sin, neither does it mean he's over but it just means people expected him to perform better. No need to start pushing silly narratives and excuses to rationalize why it happened because none of that matters and more than anything, keep things consistent. If you have unrealistic standards for one artist, have it for every other artist you compare that artist to.

thegreatdivine

3y

If you agree then why are you still bringing up him not speaking English as an excuse? Can't you read what YOU yourself wrote?

Why are you pushing the narrative that his success last year was a fluke and an anomaly? How is that not an excuse? Why not just say it underperformed and leave it at that?

You're really something else lmao.

shaleirose

3y

All of these are artists who make music in English.

Expecting a foreign artist to hit a home run in US sales every single time is naive, especially when that artist has the only 4 All-Spanish albums to ever hit #1 on Billboard.

That not excusing anything, that’s just being logical.

For the tenth time, yes the album underperformed and no one’s excusing it. The point I’m making is that his US numbers don’t define his global status.

thegreatdivine

3y

You just made another excuse and you're saying that's not excusing anything?

Man, goodbye. I'm glad these posts are up so people can see the logical inconsistencies you have for certain artists and not others. So, we can't judge artists who have success in a particular market on the same scale, even if the artists who don't speak the language of that market in their music perform better than most of the artists in that market.

When Bad Bunny was smashing last year, never did anyone suggest that it was a fluke or an anomaly and if his latest album debuted with 500k units, no one would have called that an anomaly but because it underperformed, now it is an anomaly and that's not an excuse lmaooooooo.

Sure, buddy :jordanlaff3:

shaleirose

3y

There’s just no way she still doesn’t grasp what I’m saying

thegreatdivine

3y

What is Bad Bunny's biggest music market?

shaleirose

3y

Countries where the primary language is Spanish.

Not the #2 language, the #1 language

mov

3y

Mental illness once again

orangetcovid

3y

We not bout to beef on the goat's birthday.

Stalemate for the day