Mar 11, 2024thegreatdivineWho gives a f***? This is a numbers thread and no one is putting up bigger numbers in rap than Drake in 2024. Case closed lmao.
And we’re acknowledging that by saying he has the biggest platform out of anyone
I’m seriously confused as to what’s not clicking
- Mar 11, 2024Wesley Snipes
For f***s sake, Fair Trade (not even a hit) is in his spotify top 10 but Toosie isn't
Fair Trade was platinum eligible in 6 weeks.
Mar 11, 2024·1 replythegreatdivineWho gives a f***? This is a numbers thread and no one is putting up bigger numbers in rap than Drake in 2024. Case closed lmao.
The original argument was that Kanye just put out a song with more legs than anything Drake has dropped since 2020 and what that drought of memorable hits has to say about Drake's new material
So we are talking about numbers, actually
- Mar 11, 2024·2 repliesHtownwolf
Their argument is null and void when you realize that Drake is the greatest hitmaker hip hop has ever seen. All this other stuff they are talking about is semantics and doesn’t really even matter tbh
ALL OF THIS is because Kanye FINALLY scored a hit and now they have the audacity to talk. It's not enough for them to simply celebrate the fact that that man has finally gotten himself a hit after so long, but they have to try to use it to take a dog at Drake because Drake's success infuriates all of them lmao. They're all pathetic idiots
Mar 11, 2024·1 replyroseleiHow do y’all try to victimize a guy who is the biggest artist on planet earth? Nobody is trying to clown or deny that man’s success
I mean let's call a spade a spade. I seen papi's angels in here commemorating his achievements like any normal fan does and you want to say he's a "platform" when he's just a normal human being. You can't bring that up unprovoked and fall back on "oh yall trying to turn it into something else" anyone can see there's a motive to try an dismiss or "explain" his success away as anything other than he worked hard for it. Spotify and YouTube are platforms, Drake is an artist and a damn good one too
- Mar 11, 2024roselei
So he performs all of his biggest songs from 2018 to now and weirdly leaves out one of the biggest? Sure.
Yes? He might not like to perform it. Everything isn't this deep.
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
ALL OF THIS is because Kanye FINALLY scored a hit and now they have the audacity to talk. It's not enough for them to simply celebrate the fact that that man has finally gotten himself a hit after so long, but they have to try to use it to take a dog at Drake because Drake's success infuriates all of them lmao. They're all pathetic idiots
Yeah its pretty sad that Kanye is finally getting a #1 hit after a decade and the first person they think of is drake.
Very telling lol
I’m sure drake gives 0 f***s about kanye getting a #1 record when he has more of them lol - Mar 11, 2024thegreatdivine
"I'm giving Drake his flowers" by undermining his success/impact/dominance and giving all the credit to artists whose music can't move until he's a part of it? What an interesting way to give flowers 🤔
Who’s undermining it?
The narrative some of y’all create is mind blowing.
Saying that his platform is the reason for some of his current success is not undermining him at all, it’s impressive that he was able to cultivate a fanbase that will check for whatever his name is attached to
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
ALL OF THIS is because Kanye FINALLY scored a hit and now they have the audacity to talk. It's not enough for them to simply celebrate the fact that that man has finally gotten himself a hit after so long, but they have to try to use it to take a dog at Drake because Drake's success infuriates all of them lmao. They're all pathetic idiots
And most of these were the same people in every Donda vs CLB threads saying numbers didn't matter. The double standard is crazy
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replyThe Darkest Angel
I mean let's call a spade a spade. I seen papi's angels in here commemorating his achievements like any normal fan does and you want to say he's a "platform" when he's just a normal human being. You can't bring that up unprovoked and fall back on "oh yall trying to turn it into something else" anyone can see there's a motive to try an dismiss or "explain" his success away as anything other than he worked hard for it. Spotify and YouTube are platforms, Drake is an artist and a damn good one too
Drake is a brand in the same way Taylor Swift is a brand. That’s not a diss, he literally created that over the course of his career. If you don’t think he tried to turn his name into a household name and a brand by itself you are sorely mistaken
- Mar 11, 2024·2 repliesNoir
The original argument was that Kanye just put out a song with more legs than anything Drake has dropped since 2020 and what that drought of memorable hits has to say about Drake's new material
So we are talking about numbers, actually
Drake is still churning out more memorable hits than anyone in rap.
Hilarious how y'all wait till Kanye finally gets a hit to have this discussion. Drake has more hits than Kanye can dream of and he's done that more consistently than any other name in rap has.
No one can keep operating at their commercial level forever so why is Drake expected to still be churning out hits on the same commercial level as his peak, 15 years into his mainstream career? Especially when he drops every single year and takes no breaks?
Also, you relating the charts to quality of music is hilarious. More often than not, the weakest songs by an artist is what charts the best, especially on charts like the Hot 100.
- Mar 11, 2024·2 repliesthegreatdivine
Drake is still churning out more memorable hits than anyone in rap.
Hilarious how y'all wait till Kanye finally gets a hit to have this discussion. Drake has more hits than Kanye can dream of and he's done that more consistently than any other name in rap has.
No one can keep operating at their commercial level forever so why is Drake expected to still be churning out hits on the same commercial level as his peak, 15 years into his mainstream career? Especially when he drops every single year and takes no breaks?
Also, you relating the charts to quality of music is hilarious. More often than not, the weakest songs by an artist is what charts the best, especially on charts like the Hot 100.
Kanye may not have as many, but the hits that he does have have way more weight than any Drake hit post-2018
- Mar 11, 2024The Darkest Angel
And most of these were the same people in every Donda vs CLB threads saying numbers didn't matter. The double standard is crazy
They're all just mad that Drake is still the biggest name in rap after all this time. That's all it is.
- Mar 11, 2024
Weeks to 1 million units
Fair Trade - 6
Carnival - 5"Carnival way bigger than every Drake song"
- Mar 11, 2024Htownwolf
Yeah its pretty sad that Kanye is finally getting a #1 hit after a decade and the first person they think of is drake.
Very telling lol
I’m sure drake gives 0 f***s about kanye getting a #1 record when he has more of them lolKanye is probably thinking of Drake as well so it all tracks lmao.
- Mar 11, 2024
give papi his flowers guys stop being mean 🥺
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
Drake is still churning out more memorable hits than anyone in rap.
Hilarious how y'all wait till Kanye finally gets a hit to have this discussion. Drake has more hits than Kanye can dream of and he's done that more consistently than any other name in rap has.
No one can keep operating at their commercial level forever so why is Drake expected to still be churning out hits on the same commercial level as his peak, 15 years into his mainstream career? Especially when he drops every single year and takes no breaks?
Also, you relating the charts to quality of music is hilarious. More often than not, the weakest songs by an artist is what charts the best, especially on charts like the Hot 100.
I've been having this discussion on here since CLB. It didn't start this week
Scorpion was the last time I felt like Drake was a real larger than life figure who was bigger than rap. I know I'm talking to a stan so it's pointless but purely as a fan of music, I'm really missing the hooks in his music that once came so easy from 2011-2015
That his newest singles have less staying power on the charts than his old ones just means there are a lot of people who agree with me
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replyroselei
Kanye may not have as many, but the hits that he does have have way more weight than any Drake hit post-2018
Lie.
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replyHtownwolf
Kanye hasn’t been at his creative and cultural peak since 2010. Its been downhill for him since
what is this post supposed to even mean
MBDTF is widely regarded as one of the greatest albums ever, it’s supposed to be some sort of knock all of his releases since haven’t hit that mark?
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replydeleteduser579
what is this post supposed to even mean
MBDTF is widely regarded as one of the greatest albums ever, it’s supposed to be some sort of knock all of his releases since haven’t hit that mark?
His releases after haven’t even come close.
Nigga got hit by the monstars after dropping that album - Mar 11, 2024roselei
Kanye may not have as many, but the hits that he does have have way more weight than any Drake hit post-2018
Why are you so scared to acknowledge everything Drake did up until 2018?
- Mar 11, 2024Htownwolf
His releases after haven’t even come close.
Nigga got hit by the monstars after dropping that albumyeah, most artists that put out their greatest work don’t touch it later in their careers save Prince or Bowie
he isn’t unique
- Mar 11, 2024·1 reply
Kanye's creative peak ended after TLOP. It's been diminishing but sometimes interesting returns since then.
His commercial peak ended after Cruel Summer. I remember that era. He's done numbers more based on the platform he built than commercial appeal since then. That doesn't mean he can't occasionally still have a hit, but it doesn't come easy anymore.
- Mar 11, 2024·1 replyNoir
I've been having this discussion on here since CLB. It didn't start this week
Scorpion was the last time I felt like Drake was a real larger than life figure who was bigger than rap. I know I'm talking to a stan so it's pointless but purely as a fan of music, I'm really missing the hooks in his music that once came so easy from 2011-2015
That his newest singles have less staying power on the charts than his old ones just means there are a lot of people who agree with me
No, it means Drake can't keep scoring hits at the level he did at his commercial peak (2016-2018). Expecting him to keep that going almost a decade later when most artists only manage that for a year or one album era is ridiculous.
Drake never stopped making hits btw. He still has the most hits out of any artist this decade. Because they're not One Dance or God's Plan level doesn't change the fact that they're hits.