Midzy

2y

190 > 173

roselei

2y

A difference of 17M is moot. Numbers are still down overall.

For context, thank u, next did 307M first week on-demand streams

Midzy

2y

TUN is her best project

It's almost like when more people enjoy the music - the numbers go up

thegreatdivine

2y

Kanye scored his first hit in forever and the first thing y'all jumped to say is "oh, look, this Kanye hit is bigger than ALL of Drake's hits this decade." A statement that's factually incorrect and just proves y'all are thirsty to talk s*** about Drake's achievements this decade (like there's anyone in rap who comes close to replicating what he's done).

Drake is still scoring some of the biggest hits in rap today. That hasn't changed. A song doesn't have to spend 52 weeks in the top 10 to be a hit. Most of his biggest hits from the 2010s didn't spend that much time in the top 10. Some of them didn't even peak in the top 10. So what's the point in trying to down him by saying "oh, but his hits this decade aren't as big as his hits in the 2010s." He thoroughly dominated that decade and is doing the same this decade. It doesn't matter whether his hits now are as dominant as his hits back then because he's still outdoing everybody.

That's why the whole debate is pointless. Y'all are just mad at his success and the fact that it took Kanye scoring a hit for y'all to start this silly debate, proves that.

roselei

2y

No, the more accessible an album is the better chance it has of selling. Ariana was at her commercial peak in 2019 and the three singles on that album are as accessible as you can get

Numbers =/= quality

Midzy

2y

The album with more songs and features from The Weeknd and Doja is less accessible than the album with 0 features?

roselei

2y

positions is much more R&B leaning, which is a genre that has struggled to maintain dominance in the mainstream over the past decade. It’s probably Ariana’s heaviest R&B album to date.

Also, the album was released with very little promo in the middle of a pandemic.

And finally, it came a year after her biggest album, when the world wasn’t really clamoring for a new album from her yet.

But to keep it simple, yes, thank u, next is a more accessible album than positions overall, even despite the bigger features.

The same way that CLB is a more accessible album than For All the Dogs, even though the latter has the bigger feature names

My Turn

2y

"The same way that CLB is a more accessible album than For All the Dogs, even though the latter has the bigger feature names"

disagree 🤔

clb had way bigger features

roselei

2y

positions is much more R&B leaning, which is a genre that has struggled to maintain dominance in the mainstream over the past decade. It’s probably Ariana’s heaviest R&B album to date.

Also, the album was released with very little promo in the middle of a pandemic.

And finally, it came a year after her biggest album, when the world wasn’t really clamoring for a new album from her yet.

But to keep it simple, yes, thank u, next is a more accessible album than positions overall, even despite the bigger features.

The same way that CLB is a more accessible album than For All the Dogs, even though the latter has the bigger feature names

OnceAgain

2y

Dont take it so srs

Its just to annoy drake stans who been the most annoying stans in the world for some time

Read ur post. Annoying af

thegreatdivine

2y

Of course that's what you say when someone calls you out on your bullshit. That's the only time it turns to "it's not that serious. Drake stans are just annoying." F*** off, man.

Midzy

2y

Excuses weren't a part of your theory that everyones numbers are down

FATD underperformed cause it's s***, and Vultures did Rod Wave numbers cause it's near unlistenable

roselei

2y

It’s sad to think you live in a reality where the quality of music is determined by how many copies it sells

roselei

2y

It’s sad to think you live in a reality where the quality of music is determined by how many copies it sells

Midzy

2y

Lmao these are A-List artists, not indie acts. Sales is a good indicator on if people are into the music or not.

Those two albums just happen to be s***. I prefer Positions to the new one.

Free YoungBoy

2y

Some of you guys need to pick up a sport to watch and argue about stats all day because it just doesn’t work the same for art like music and movies

roselei

2y

No. SZA (twice), Bad Bunny, and Cole are bigger than the biggest names on CLB

Literally the biggest R&B star, the biggest Latin star, and the third/fourth/fifth biggest rapper all featured on one album

roselei

2y

Sales are an indicator on whether the music is popular or not. It has nothing to do with whether or not the music is good.

Also you’re contradicting yourself. If you yourself prefer positions over eternal sunshine, you should understand how sales don’t equate to quality, because you prefer the album that sold less first week

My Turn

2y

very debatable

sza, sexy red, bad bunny, jcole vs future x2 coming off one of biggest songs of the decade, young thug, lil baby coming off one of biggest albums this decade, lil durk, Jayz, lil wayne, rick ross, kid cudi, giveon

cole not that big anymore. bad bunny not either tbh especially not to sway it to fatd