ICEcremeMAN

2y

I feel like going against the industry from the jump is the exact way you limit yourself early, unless you’re just extremely talented to the point nothing can stop you

ICEcremeMAN

2y

I feel like going against the industry from the jump is the exact way you limit yourself early, unless you’re just extremely talented to the point nothing can stop you

BRAVE

2y

I’m talking Eminem/Kendrick/Adele/Lorde type “going against” the status quo of the industry when they blew up

BRAVE

2y

But yeah this facts if we REALLY talking about going against the industry on some music activism s***

I’d like to see if that would be pulled off

ICEcremeMAN

2y

Definitely see your POV now. Personally I think the next mega star is gonna need at least some conceptual/lyrical capabilities mixed with sound range and commercial appeal (and of course a lot of luck and help from the machine). Like the last few people I’ve seen “next up” like central Cee, those Opium niggas , Yeat, have all been relatively limited in rapping ability and range.

americana

2y

Adele and Lorde were against the industry?

americana

2y

Adele and Lorde were against the industry?

thegreatdivine

2y

All this coping for Big Sean is interesting to see. Yes, he's never done massive numbers first week and numbers are down across the board for all rappers but still, (potentially) debuting with less than 25k units (off an album with 20 songs and multiple variants across several physical formats) shows that people have simply moved off dude. And don't say the album doesn't have bangers (or at least attempts at slappers). It does. Y'all just don't care about Big Sean anymore as an artist and that's okay, I guess. All things considered, he's had a very successful career. Y'all just need to be honest because if any of the major rappers experience even a small dip in their numbers, y'all are on their asses like white on rice.

americana

2y

Adele and Lorde were against the industry?

Millionaire

2y

idk why they actinf like Sean didnt just do over 100k a few years ago.

Millionaire

2y

idk why they actinf like Sean didnt just do over 100k a few years ago.

New Vagabond

2y

Her Loss and HN are both streaming lower than Morale but somehow Mr. Morale is the flop?

soulstorm

2y

The last 3 did 100k + and he went #1 3 times in a row

Noir

2y

Lorde absolutely. The pop landscape changed a lot because of Pure Heroine

Adele's sound always has a space in adult contemporary but she was quite different from the glitzy dance pop of 2009-2011

thegreatdivine

2y

He has multiple albums that debuted with well over 100k in his prime and now they're acting like he has always been a 25k-tier artist. I don't know what else he could have done to rollout his album any better than he did.

20 songs? Check.
Multiple catchy singles? Check.
Multiple variants across several physical formats? Check.

It simply didn't translate enough for people. This is what happened to Kendrick when he took 5 years off and returned with MMATBS. Regardless of what niggas say, no one cares about rap albums that focus on healing, mental health and growth as a man. It simply doesn't translate to exciting music. That's why it's so disingenuous seeing people complain about Drake not making "mature music". They don't care about anyone who does that and there's years of examples to prove that.

For Big Sean, I'll say that I'm glad he made an album filled with songs that reflect where he is right now in his life. I like the album. And as long as he made the album he wished to make, that's a W for him. He can always double back with more music if he wants and see how that works out.

pimpin

2y

The more I think about Spotify streams the more I realize they don’t mean shii. Streams gotta be the most irrelevant thing for the artist’s career.

I was thinking about this scenario earlier...Spotify, which ain't even an American company could easily face real competition from let's say Apple Music, YouTube Music or even some brand new platform in the near future...

Spotify’s streaming milestones won’t mean anything if Spotify goes down. Spotify could literally fall off in the next few years and when it does who’s going to be talking about Drake’s 100 billion streams? LOL In the long run it just doesn’t matter.

Picture this: Apple Music blows up, runs the game and boots Spotify outta the US market. All those Spotify records and numbers? Gone. Streams would restart on Apple Music (clean slate) and some new artist, bigger than Drake or Kendrick (bigger in that moment) could slide in and take all the records.

Next thing you know, they the one everyone is streaming and Drake’s not even in the convo no more. It’s not even far fetched cause Spotify ain't based in the US and we’ve seen this b4 with Myspace getting pushed out.

Millionaire

2y

He should at least be doin 50k imo No way did Latto, JT, and Ice Spice outsellf 😭

thegreatdivine

2y

Lana Del Rey did that first and making an album that's sonically opposite of what most of the industry is doing doesn't mean you're "going against the industry." Lorde and Adele got A LOT of support in the industry for their music. That's how those songs/albums ended up being as successful as they were.

Iron Lion Zion

2y

Who's gonna challenge Spotify? They have almost twice the paying subscribers than Apple Music right now and still growing. Nobody gonna catch them anytime soon.

Once people have established their library on one music platform it's gonna be damn hard to get them to move to another.

Noir

2y

What exactly did Lana do before Lorde? Their personas, aesthetic and especially their music were nothing alike.

ICEcremeMAN

2y

Definitely see your POV now. Personally I think the next mega star is gonna need at least some conceptual/lyrical capabilities mixed with sound range and commercial appeal (and of course a lot of luck and help from the machine). Like the last few people I’ve seen “next up” like central Cee, those Opium niggas , Yeat, have all been relatively limited in rapping ability and range.