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  • Dec 2, 2024
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    Expert

    I don't think it's bad but I don't think it represents the essence of #1 hit. But in the end, it's how the listening habits have evolved. In the past radio determined this more than anything else and now there is a shift to streaming so makes sense tbh.

    I need to update my view of #1s with the times I guess lol. It would mean a lot to have number 1s in the past.

    I agree with this. Songs need to be weighted differently now.

    Kendrick debuting at #1 is amazing but any of these songs can freefall off the chart and never return, and it would still count as a “#1”

    Just kinda losing the weight of what a #1 used to mean, when it was a song that was ubiquitous and everyone knew

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1863659425140977733

    Could have easily been 4 but he released Euphoria on a Tuesday.

  • Dec 2, 2024
    quadra

    Yeah but who controlled radio and which stations counted the most

    #1s feel more accurate now

    Even now radio is counting more than it probably should

    yeah, im with you there. The system was being more gamed and being fed to consumers before.

    It's more free will now.

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    Ghetto Lenny

    Christmas songs should have their own chart. It should be already assumed that they are going to be the most listened to songs during Christmas. It never used to be like this. TV Off is the real number 1 next week.

    I agree with this too

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    KayTray

    Could have easily been 4 but he released Euphoria on a Tuesday.

    Euphoria debuted #2 behind NLU

  • Dec 2, 2024
    TheFader

    I agree with this. Songs need to be weighted differently now.

    Kendrick debuting at #1 is amazing but any of these songs can freefall off the chart and never return, and it would still count as a “#1”

    Just kinda losing the weight of what a #1 used to mean, when it was a song that was ubiquitous and everyone knew

    Yeah, in theory it should be a weekly representation of the song and it is so it all makes sense.

    I just see too many #1s or top 10 that fall off the chart in a few weeks.

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  • Dec 2, 2024
    KayTray

    tv off or luther have a chance at #1 after Christmas if they get a video or get sent to radio.

    apparently luther was sent to radio on the 29th

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    I agree with this. Songs need to be weighted differently now.

    Kendrick debuting at #1 is amazing but any of these songs can freefall off the chart and never return, and it would still count as a “#1”

    Just kinda losing the weight of what a #1 used to mean, when it was a song that was ubiquitous and everyone knew

    nah bro theres #1s in the 90s and 00s and before that youve never heard of and are just as meaningless as recent bogus #1s

  • Dec 2, 2024
    Ghetto Lenny

    Christmas songs should have their own chart. It should be already assumed that they are going to be the most listened to songs during Christmas. It never used to be like this. TV Off is the real number 1 next week.

    Why would we assume that and not let the music listening habits reflect what's the most popular any given week?

  • Dec 2, 2024
    americana

    Euphoria debuted #2 behind NLU

    Euphoria debuted #11 with 2.5 days of tracking. Then climbed up to #3 the following week when NLU debuted #1.

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    Spice o Clock

    nah bro theres #1s in the 90s and 00s and before that youve never heard of and are just as meaningless as recent bogus #1s

    I just looked at a random year from the 90s and a random year from the 2000s.

    1995: The only #1 I don’t know is “Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman?” by Bryan Adams

    2006: Not a single #1 from this year I don’t know

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    I just looked at a random year from the 90s and a random year from the 2000s.

    1995: The only #1 I don’t know is “Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman?” by Bryan Adams

    2006: Not a single #1 from this year I don’t know

    Which #1 from 2022 don't you know

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    quadra

    Which #1 from 2022 don't you know

    Anti-Hero

    The rest of them I personally have heard, but you have to remember I am a person who engages in discussion on a music forum. I’m not the average person.

  • Dec 2, 2024

    def some kpop songs hit number 1 and fell the f*** off as well in the last few years.

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    Anti-Hero

    The rest of them I personally have heard, but you have to remember I am a person who engages in discussion on a music forum. I’m not the average person.

    The average person doesn't care about #1s or if they know them so why should they necessarily should have heard them?

    Music consumption as a percentage of everyone's lives has waned as more content is being produced

    Back then, radio was king because it was one of the only things to do

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    quadra

    The average person doesn't care about #1s or if they know them so why should they necessarily should have heard them?

    Music consumption as a percentage of everyone's lives has waned as more content is being produced

    Back then, radio was king because it was one of the only things to do

    What I’m saying is that pre-streaming, a #1 record was usually a record that the average person knew, or at least could recite a line or two from.

    The same cannot be said today.

    I’m not even tryna hate either because I’m saying this after Kendrick just scored a #1. I just think the “album drops that flood the Top 25” phenomenon that happens with streaming is a little ridiculous

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    What I’m saying is that pre-streaming, a #1 record was usually a record that the average person knew, or at least could recite a line or two from.

    The same cannot be said today.

    I’m not even tryna hate either because I’m saying this after Kendrick just scored a #1. I just think the “album drops that flood the Top 25” phenomenon that happens with streaming is a little ridiculous

    Because music had an easier chance at intersecting in their every day lives

    Millions of different ways content is consumed now causes you to miss music

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    I just looked at a random year from the 90s and a random year from the 2000s.

    1995: The only #1 I don’t know is “Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman?” by Bryan Adams

    2006: Not a single #1 from this year I don’t know

    2006 ur capping u do not know Do I Make You Proud

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    quadra

    Because music had an easier chance at intersecting in their every day lives

    Millions of different ways content is consumed now causes you to miss music

    I’m not talking about all #1s. There are definitely #1 nowadays that transcend culture and become ubiquitous.

    Not Like Us and A Bar Song out now.

    What I’m referring to are the major album drops that result in the Top 25 being flooded with songs from said album, sometimes with one of them hitting #1, and then a week or two later 80-90% of those songs disappear from the chart.

    I’m not saying this is definitely what will happen with GNX, but I’d bet that probably 8 or 9 of the 12 songs are gonna off the Hot 100 within the next 2-3 weeks or so

  • Dec 2, 2024
    Spice o Clock

    2006 ur capping u do not know Do I Make You Proud

    Oh I didn’t see that one. Okay so that one then

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    TheFader

    I’m not talking about all #1s. There are definitely #1 nowadays that transcend culture and become ubiquitous.

    Not Like Us and A Bar Song out now.

    What I’m referring to are the major album drops that result in the Top 25 being flooded with songs from said album, sometimes with one of them hitting #1, and then a week or two later 80-90% of those songs disappear from the chart.

    I’m not saying this is definitely what will happen with GNX, but I’d bet that probably 8 or 9 of the 12 songs are gonna off the Hot 100 within the next 2-3 weeks or so

    They used to limit how many tracks off an album could debut on the chart? Do we need that again? No

    Why not? Because it's not accurate of what got consumed that week

    Why should we filter what's get to see the chart? What is this based on?

    Those songs got consumed enough to see the chart
    Them being gone after 1,2,3 weeks show they didn't get consumed

    Why is this a bad thing lol I don't get it

    Should we only care about songs that get to stay on the chart with weak streaming and over play by pop radio?
    Or can songs that get streamed from an album debut matter?

  • Dec 2, 2024

    #1 and longevity in the top 10 or a high spot overall should be focused on more and not debut week

  • Dec 2, 2024
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    quadra

    They used to limit how many tracks off an album could debut on the chart? Do we need that again? No

    Why not? Because it's not accurate of what got consumed that week

    Why should we filter what's get to see the chart? What is this based on?

    Those songs got consumed enough to see the chart
    Them being gone after 1,2,3 weeks show they didn't get consumed

    Why is this a bad thing lol I don't get it

    Should we only care about songs that get to stay on the chart with weak streaming and over play by pop radio?
    Or can songs that get streamed from an album debut matter?

    It’s just stupid when people then try to use those records as proof of a successful song.

    If it debuted at #3 and fell off the chart never to return again, that shouldn’t really be considered a Top 10 hit for the artist

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