I swear you might d***ride weeknd more than thegreatdivine d***rides drake never seen you criticise anything about the weeknd ever

Come on man Taylor has literally almost the entire female population of the world obsessed with her lol. Beyonce never even had half her fanbase

People barely care about Beyonce outside of the US. I actually think Taylor is 5x bigger than Beyonce outside of the US

Bey filled out stadiums in Europe last year

The spreadsheets really gave half of these posters brain rot when taking about Taylor mid lol

Yeah I meant relative to her stature in the US

There's a huge difference between doing like 12 stadium dates outside of the US vs what Taylor's doing with the Eras Tour

it's nuts to compare them at this point

the closest artist to Taylor is Adele and then Harry Styles tbh

No.

Beyonce is bigger than Harry when it comes to touring

The gap w/ touring isn't as big as you think between them

But the gap w/ music popularity is actually huge outside of the US, which is why I think Harry's bigger as of right now

Harry even sells way more actual physical albums than Beyonce everywhere (incl US) lol, which is actually insane considering he's a "new gen" artist

Harry's House almost sold more pure in the US (330k) than Cowboy Carter (168k) and renaissance (190k) combined

I thought you were strictly talking about touring. In that regard, Beyoncé is much more successful. While they grossed roughly the same amount, Harry had to do three times as many shows

When it comes to music sales, Harry is, of course, much bigger than Beyoncé. She’s pretty much a legacy act at this point

Harry's tour grew a lot though, for some reason it was a 2+ year long tour where a lot of the early dates were arenas, then it became much stadiums

I really do think that Harry can do way more stadiums in Europe/Asia than Beyonce. US is where Beyonce smokes Harry $ wise though, those US dates do like 2x+ more revenue than EU/Asia dates

No, she isn't and you'll see the next time Harry tours.

Yes, and Beyoncé was outselling Madonna in 2003

Doesn't mean she's bigger than Madonna overall

Newer big artists will always do better than older artists

You are ed

I'm ngl I thought you'd rip into me for what i'm saying lol. i didn't expect you to agree.

you're basically saying bigger = more people know their name though, that's a weird way to define what "bigger" means.

Bigger to me = more people care about what they're doing with their life/career. so for me Beyonce became bigger than Madonna in the 2000s

He may very well prove to be a bigger touring act on his next tour, but based on their last tour numbers, Beyoncé is currently bigger

This is a great example of Beyoncé's reign.

We are now comparing her to people that debuted in the late 2010s, exactly TWENTY YEARS after she debuted.

Meanwhile her actual peers are all retired or tanked. Except P!nk.

I remember how her "competitors" were people like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera...

I wonder if in the 2030s, we will be comparing her to someone that hasn't debuted yet.

Fair but it's the same for TAylor v Beyonce comparisions then. Taylor and Harry basically debutted at the same time.

legacy peaks also shouldn't matter for discussing who the biggest artist is. it makes no sense. Saying Ed Sheeran is bigger than The Weeknd for example would just feel wrong

Fair enough.

there is nothing funnier on this than how Taylor Swift RILES 'em up.

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This is not true. I’ve criticized him numerous times on here

Imagine being this out of touch with reality

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