Ed Sheeran debuted 4 years before Weeknd reached the mainstream. That’s not the same as someone who has been around for 20 years before Taylor hit her peak

You really live your life through the lens of a stat sheet don’t you

you sound like an old person that still thinks artists like usher are big and on the radio lmao

nope

so you think beyonce is bigger than taylor outside of the US? Lol you really need to get out of the US

Mariah you will pay for this

Show me where I said this

Beyonce is bigger than Taylor Swift.

We’re talking about Beyonce for f***’s sake

You always say stats don't matter and "real life" matters more, which is exactly what old people say lol. Because they can't face the fact the world has changed. I've come to realise you're likely 40+ years old.

In the US yes, outside no. Eras Tour in Europe/Asia is probably bigger than all of Beyonce's Europe/Asia tours combined thru her whole career lmao

I never said stats don’t matter.

I said they are not the only thing that matters.

Kanye, for example, is probably the most known figure in all of rap music and he doesn’t have the highest stats out of all rappers. There are numerous factors that contribute to an artist’s overall celebrity status, it’s not just raw numbers alone

Yes because you saw one number bigger than the other and came to that conclusion

Ok so what could you possibly use to say Beyonce is bigger than Taylor in europe/asia? Lol your vibes?

Maybe the fact that Beyonce has been a globally known and culturally relevant figure for the past 25 years and counting

Michael Jackson doesn’t have the highest grossing tour of all time btw. Is he not the most popular artist to ever walk the planet?

Right & Taylor overtook her and is now bigger. it's that simple. Just like Ed Sheeran did too. Especially in Asia, Ed is far bigger in asia than almost anyone

Sure so use # of tickets sold & Era Tour has still sold more tickets than all beyonce tours combined in europe/asia i think

So is Taylor bigger than Michael Jackson as well?

Obviously not but she's the closest thing to MJ in the last 20+ years probably. Beyonce never had these crazy police escorts in foreign countries etc

But I thought numbers matter more than anything. MJ never did a tour that grossed over a billion like Taylor did. This must mean Taylor is bigger, no?

Using $ is stupid, I already said that. Everyone will tell you MJs tour were bigger than Taylor's.

Taylor destroys all of Beyonce's music sales (even peak Beyonce)

destroys all her touring data

destroys her networth

yet people will still say she isnt bigger than her lol, weird

Even adjusted for inflation, MJ’s box office comes nowhere near a billion for one tour. Does that mean Taylor is bigger?

Because not everything is about numbers

Yeah vibes are more important