Jan 6, 2025
TheFaderEven if you look at the Billboard 200 right now, UVST is still at #130 and Harry’s House is nowhere to be found.
Maybe it’s a bit of a stretch to say he had the biggest male peak ever (still arguable), it’s an absolute joke to claim that Harry Styles was bigger than him in 2022 and your source is Google search trends when every stat correlated with the actual music proves otherwise
Idk, Ed Sheeran 2017 could beat anyone. Which says a lot cause streaming was still a baby
- Jan 6, 2025·2 repliesTheFader
Using Google trends to prove a popularity argument will never not be nonsensical and corny
Un Verano Sin Ti is the most streamed album of all time and it released less than 3 years ago. (And it’s still the 7th highest streamed album daily right now btw).
That nigga was out the stratosphere in 2022.
Harry’s House and Un Verano Sin Ti released within two weeks of each other and Un Verano has, quite literally, 10 billion more streams
When it comes to Drake v The Weeknd, you s*** on Drake saying that outside of the US he isn't that big and people only care about him in the US, whilst people care about The Weeknd globally
so why aren't you using the same logic here? No one cares about Bad Bunny outside of US/Latin countries. This is clear bias, cause letsbe real. Harry & Ed's peaks were both probably 5x+ bigger outside US/Latin countries than Bad Bunny's 2022.
Jan 6, 2025·1 reply"who has fallen off a cliff since 2022"
mangotflu still with the woat posts in 2025
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymov
"who has fallen off a cliff since 2022"
mangotflu still with the woat posts in 2025
I mean, he factually has though. His last album did nowhere near his 2022 album
His 2022 album is the #1 most streamed album ever on Spotify
His 2023 album is the #146 most streamed album on Spotifyhow is that not falling off a cliff? Any other artist and you'd be clowning them.
- Jan 6, 2025·1 reply
^lol
Jan 6, 2025·2 repliesmangotfluWhen it comes to Drake v The Weeknd, you s*** on Drake saying that outside of the US he isn't that big and people only care about him in the US, whilst people care about The Weeknd globally
so why aren't you using the same logic here? No one cares about Bad Bunny outside of US/Latin countries. This is clear bias, cause letsbe real. Harry & Ed's peaks were both probably 5x+ bigger outside US/Latin countries than Bad Bunny's 2022.
look at global stats. Bad Bunny in 2022 had the most streamed album of all time
Did a monster tour that broke records at the time.
Ed is def bigger in europe/Asia. 4M people weren't trying to buy his tickets at venues though.
Ed in 2017 had a massive tour but Bad Bunny dominated his like no other.
- Jan 6, 2025mov
^lol
It's 2025 and you're still cying cause you've been proven wrong again
- Jan 6, 2025
^lol
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymangotflu
I mean, he factually has though. His last album did nowhere near his 2022 album
His 2022 album is the #1 most streamed album ever on Spotify
His 2023 album is the #146 most streamed album on Spotifyhow is that not falling off a cliff? Any other artist and you'd be clowning them.
He made a trap album...
You don't understand the genre. He dropped an album today which is more aligned with his mainstream sound.
This album is has social messages and a purpose and watch it do numbers.
No one is doubting Ed. He is probably 2/3 with Weeknd but Bad Bunny in 2022 is the most impressive global numbers.
Jan 6, 2025·1 replyExpertlook at global stats. Bad Bunny in 2022 had the most streamed album of all time
Did a monster tour that broke records at the time.
Ed is def bigger in europe/Asia. 4M people weren't trying to buy his tickets at venues though.
Ed in 2017 had a massive tour but Bad Bunny dominated his like no other.
Ok, but the discussion is global success.
Bad Bunny is very popular of course, but where are most of these streams coming from?
By this logic, we can also say Morgan Wallen is the biggest male artist in the world since 2023 (despite 90% of his streams and ticket sales coming from the US and Canada)
- Jan 6, 2025Expert
look at global stats. Bad Bunny in 2022 had the most streamed album of all time
Did a monster tour that broke records at the time.
Ed is def bigger in europe/Asia. 4M people weren't trying to buy his tickets at venues though.
Ed in 2017 had a massive tour but Bad Bunny dominated his like no other.
Ed also had that in 2017 though?
This is nuts cause I'm a Ed hater but you're really downplaying what he did, no western artist has ever done what he did in Asia, it was absolutely insane. Bad Bunny had like 10% of the worlds population singing his songs and going to his concerts. Ed had the other 90%. There's really levels to this
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymangotflu
Why are you looking at Billboard 200 right now whilst discussing the biggest artist of 2022 lol
- Jan 6, 2025mangotflu
rofl you've started 2025 being even crazier than 2024 even
biggest peak for a male artist
Also for someone who cares soo much about longevity, you sure aren't talking about Bad bunny's, who has fallen off a cliff since 2022
Also for someone who cares soo much about longevity, you sure aren't talking about Bad bunny's, who has fallen off a cliff since 2022
It’s almost like the conversation was solely about 2022 and not longevity
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replyExpert
He made a trap album...
You don't understand the genre. He dropped an album today which is more aligned with his mainstream sound.
This album is has social messages and a purpose and watch it do numbers.
No one is doubting Ed. He is probably 2/3 with Weeknd but Bad Bunny in 2022 is the most impressive global numbers.
I hope you used that same genre excuse for albums like Mr Morale/Honestly Nvm, I know most people on here don't.
We'll see, I haven't seen hype for this new album at all considering he has the #1 streamed album of all time.
To me it just looks like his career is going the Post Malone trajectory.
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replyTheFader
whataboutism
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymangotflu
When it comes to Drake v The Weeknd, you s*** on Drake saying that outside of the US he isn't that big and people only care about him in the US, whilst people care about The Weeknd globally
so why aren't you using the same logic here? No one cares about Bad Bunny outside of US/Latin countries. This is clear bias, cause letsbe real. Harry & Ed's peaks were both probably 5x+ bigger outside US/Latin countries than Bad Bunny's 2022.
I never once said Drake wasn’t big outside of the US. I simply said that The Weeknd is bigger outside of the US than Drake is.
Saying Steph Curry is a better three point shooter than Klay Thompson doesn’t mean Klay sucks at shooting threes
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replyjack johnson
Ok, but the discussion is global success.
Bad Bunny is very popular of course, but where are most of these streams coming from?
By this logic, we can also say Morgan Wallen is the biggest male artist in the world since 2023 (despite 90% of his streams and ticket sales coming from the US and Canada)
You have to look at the purchasing power as part of the equation also.
There is a reason why all these artists rather tour US/Canada because this part of the world carries more weight.
If Morgan Wallen was the most streamed artist globally then he would be the biggest but he isn't.
Bad Bunny is still bigger than him globally even at his peak. He had 2X as many streams in his off year.
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymangotflu
whataboutism
The discussion was literally “which artist was bigger in 2022”, how is it whataboutism to use the Billboard stats from 2022 as evidence
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replyTheFader
The discussion was literally “which artist was bigger in 2022”, how is it whataboutism to use the Billboard stats from 2022 as evidence
As a reminder, you said this "Even if you look at the Billboard 200 right now"
- Jan 6, 2025
continuum and mangotflu on the same page
- Jan 6, 2025mangotflu
As a reminder, you said this "Even if you look at the Billboard 200 right now"
Yes, that was an ADDITIONAL point to FURTHER prove how Bad Bunny’s 2022 album is more popular than Harry’s 2022 album, even to this day
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replyTheFader
I never once said Drake wasn’t big outside of the US. I simply said that The Weeknd is bigger outside of the US than Drake is.
Saying Steph Curry is a better three point shooter than Klay Thompson doesn’t mean Klay sucks at shooting threes
Right but you've made many posts in here talking about how huge Bad Bunny is without once mentioning that outside of those countries, he's absolutely nothing. Yet you mention it every other post when talking about Drake, it's just interesting.
- Jan 6, 2025·1 replymangotflu
Right but you've made many posts in here talking about how huge Bad Bunny is without once mentioning that outside of those countries, he's absolutely nothing. Yet you mention it every other post when talking about Drake, it's just interesting.
Do those countries just not exist to you because they don’t speak English?
- Jan 6, 2025TheFader
Do those countries just not exist to you because they don’t speak English?
Lol, wooosh. Happy new year.
- Jan 6, 2025
A Hispanic artist being massively popular sure did expose some inherent racism
Niggas are lame and weird