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  • Feb 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    It’s outstreaming After Hours and Dawn FM

    Globally but can’t be US. 120k from streaming in US is TERRIBLE for an artist of his level.

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    Big Dog

    Globally but can’t be US. 120k from streaming in US is TERRIBLE for an artist of his level.

    Starboy: 139K SEA
    My Dear Melancholy,: 101K SEA
    After Hours: 163K SEA
    Dawn FM: 134K SEA

    In what world is 120K SEA terrible for an artist who has never cleared 170K SEA in a single week?

  • Feb 5, 2025

    I need y’all to start understanding how s*** works for most pop artists and also the fact that The Weeknd has NEVER been a big first week streamer. Literally ever.

    It’s not like he went down 200 million streams like some other artists did from one album to the next

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    Whatever it is, it’s right in the range he’s done his entire career via streaming.

    They’re acting in here like the first week streaming total is 30K or something crazy

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    Who gives a f***, it’s performing great globally

    380K debut incoming

    I was just correcting the point you were making in that particular post.

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    I was just correcting the point you were making in that particular post.

    There’s nothing to correct. The album is outperforming After Hours and Dawn on streaming right now. I never said anything about the US in my original post.

  • Feb 5, 2025

    He can just never win with some of yall

  • Feb 5, 2025
    Big Dog

    Weeknd selling 120k first week without bundles was something I did not expect bro.

    I mean Dawn FM was pretty much 140k no bundles and Idol songs + recent singles (except Timeless) kinda flopped so not surprising

    Love the album tho and hope it’ll have strong legs

  • Feb 5, 2025
    Big Dog

    Weeknd selling 120k first week without bundles was something I did not expect bro.

    His most popular album ever sold 163K without bundles. Hope this helps.

  • Benito is really him.

  • Feb 5, 2025
    TheFader

    There’s nothing to correct. The album is outperforming After Hours and Dawn on streaming right now. I never said anything about the US in my original post.

    This is a thread that covers the commercial performance of music in the US.

  • Feb 5, 2025
    TheFader

    How could someone even come to this conclusion. He is bigger right now than he’s ever been

    Aint no way you believe this

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    The album is outstreaming After Hours

    My post was about the US, where it's performing far, far worse than AH.

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    Valentine

    How is 4 number one songs and 2 number one albums since Astroworld sabotage?

    Astroworld was 2018, I said 2021 is when the fall off started. A lot of it was probably due to what happened w/ the festival, but his commercial collabs/singles have taken a massive nosedive since around then

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    Starboy: 139K SEA
    My Dear Melancholy,: 101K SEA
    After Hours: 163K SEA
    Dawn FM: 134K SEA

    In what world is 120K SEA terrible for an artist who has never cleared 170K SEA in a single week?

    You're so disingenous lmao, you were saying how important extra tracks were for other artists before and now you're not even mentioning it as a criticism of The Weeknd's nubers.

    AH did 139k with 14 tracks
    Dawn FM did 134k with 16 tracks with basically no rollout

    120k is terrible for 22 tracks and a 8 month long rollout

  • Feb 5, 2025

    who cares about sales

    Abel the real goat HUT album of life

  • Feb 5, 2025

    12m in the US on Day 4
    Dawn FM did 10.7m with 6 less tracks, a week of promo

    genuinely a weird sign for his career

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    mangotflu

    Astroworld was 2018, I said 2021 is when the fall off started. A lot of it was probably due to what happened w/ the festival, but his commercial collabs/singles have taken a massive nosedive since around then

    Since 2021, how is

    Albums:

    #1 (technically 2, but it’s a rerelease)

    Singles:

    #1
    #2
    #3 x 2
    #5
    #6 x 2
    #7
    #10
    #11 x 2

    Tour:

    $154M (predicted to top out at $190M) second biggest hiphop tour of all time and still counting

    A nose dive?

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    Valentine

    Since 2021, how is

    Albums:

    #1 (technically 2, but it’s a rerelease)

    Singles:

    #1
    #2
    #3 x 2
    #5
    #6 x 2
    #7
    #10
    #11 x 2

    Tour:

    $154M (predicted to top out at $190M) second biggest hiphop tour of all time and still counting

    A nose dive?

    In the US there were waaaaay more big Trav songs 2017-2021, than there has been 2021-2025, I really don't think you can possibly disagree with that. He had a new big song every few months during 2017/2018/2019

    4x4 is his worst performing single on streaming since like 2016

    PRior to 2021 he had huge collabs with McDonalds, Nike, Fortnite, now what does he have? Nike have greatly reduced their partnership

    He has grown globally since 2021, whilst losing popularity in the US, exactly like The Weeknd

  • Feb 5, 2025
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    mangotflu

    In the US there were waaaaay more big Trav songs 2017-2021, than there has been 2021-2025, I really don't think you can possibly disagree with that. He had a new big song every few months during 2017/2018/2019

    4x4 is his worst performing single on streaming since like 2016

    PRior to 2021 he had huge collabs with McDonalds, Nike, Fortnite, now what does he have? Nike have greatly reduced their partnership

    He has grown globally since 2021, whilst losing popularity in the US, exactly like The Weeknd

    But now you’re shifting the conversation again

    I presented to you facts that he actually hasn’t taken a nose dive not only in music, but also in show turnout and his collaborations and singles from 2021-2025 have been far more successful and more consistent. He just has bigger singles 2017-2021, but even then, 2 of those were as strong as 4x4.
    Okay 4x4 didn’t performed well. It’s coming off the heels of music that has been performing really well and the stats show that

    Also I disagree, in a short time, Travis’ songs from this era are already outstreaming most his from the last era. Salute lmfao

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    Valentine

    But now you’re shifting the conversation again

    I presented to you facts that he actually hasn’t taken a nose dive not only in music, but also in show turnout and his collaborations and singles from 2021-2025 have been far more successful and more consistent. He just has bigger singles 2017-2021, but even then, 2 of those were as strong as 4x4.
    Okay 4x4 didn’t performed well. It’s coming off the heels of music that has been performing really well and the stats show that

    Also I disagree, in a short time, Travis’ songs from this era are already outstreaming most his from the last era. Salute lmfao

    Huh? how am I shifting the convo?

    Do you genuinely believe his collabs/singles 2021-2025 have been more successful than 2017-2021? I'll dig up the numbers later if you want because I genuinely believe he did 3-4x more in 2017-2021. US wise. He hasn't had much success in recent years compared to Astroworld ish era at all. Basically just FEIN (which wasn't -that- big in the US), My Eyes (which again wasnt that big in the US).

    Touring sure but touring always lags behind for artists. Look at Coldplay, they fell off a cliff in like the mid 2010s. Their tours are only getting bigger every time

    even globally, Astroworld (3.9m) is 5 years older than Utopia yet only getting 1m less streams a day than Utopia (4.9m)

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