mangotflu

1y

My post was about the US, where it's performing far, far worse than AH.

TheFader

1y

“Far, far worse” and it’s a 40K difference

mangotflu

1y

You're so disingenous lmao, you were saying how important extra tracks were for other artists before and now you're not even mentioning it as a criticism of The Weeknd's nubers.

AH did 139k with 14 tracks
Dawn FM did 134k with 16 tracks with basically no rollout

120k is terrible for 22 tracks and a 8 month long rollout

mangotflu

1y

40k difference with 8 less tracks

this would be doing under 100k sea with 14 tracks

TheFader

1y

And I would be rich if I was a billionaire

mangotflu

1y

So ironic considering the things you said about GMX lmao, hypocriscy at its finest

Mafia Boss

1y

Why does The Weekend not get the same backlash Travis gets?

Valentine

1y

But now you’re shifting the conversation again

I presented to you facts that he actually hasn’t taken a nose dive not only in music, but also in show turnout and his collaborations and singles from 2021-2025 have been far more successful and more consistent. He just has bigger singles 2017-2021, but even then, 2 of those were as strong as 4x4.
Okay 4x4 didn’t performed well. It’s coming off the heels of music that has been performing really well and the stats show that

Also I disagree, in a short time, Travis’ songs from this era are already outstreaming most his from the last era. Salute lmfao

TheFader

1y

Every pop artist uses physicals and bundles nowadays. They literally need them to sell records. Hope this helps.

TheFader

1y

It’s not hypocrisy whatsoever. Yet again you are comparing the first week streaming numbers of a rapper and a pop artist. Unless you are Taylor Swift, you are not debuting with some insane stream count first week in the US if you are a pop artist

Mafia Boss

1y

Fein is only about 3x platinum in a year and that was the biggest song on Utopia. Then Meltdown and I Know are 2x plat.

mangotflu

1y

exactly lol. trav hasnt had a big hit (for his standards) in the US in like 4-5 years. Probably Highest in the Room

TheFader

1y

It’s not hypocrisy whatsoever. Yet again you are comparing the first week streaming numbers of a rapper and a pop artist. Unless you are Taylor Swift, you are not debuting with some insane stream count first week in the US if you are a pop artist

mangotflu

1y

Fader: Pop artists don't do well first week
Fader: Long albums stream far better

HUT, 22 tracks: 120k streaming units
Short n Sweet, 12 tracks: 160k streaming units

thegreatdivine

1y

This isn't true. Morgan Wallen, SZA, Ariana Grande, Olivia Rodrigo, Harry Styles and even Sabrina Carpenter have all dropped albums (some with 20+ songs and some with as few as 11 songs) that all debuted with bigger first-week streams than any album by the Weeknd.

All the artists listed above started their mainstream careers after The Weeknd and don't have as many hits or hits as huge as he does in the US.

TheFader

1y

Also hilarious how suddenly they expect a long album to stream better but at the same time were clowning GNX’s first week streams

Make it make sense

Mafia Boss

1y

Why does The Weekend not get the same backlash Travis gets?

mangotflu

1y

Nah I'm saying when it came to GMX, you were spamming KTT about how it woulda done a lot more with more tracks.

With this, you're not even talking about how HUT woulda done a lot less with the same track count as AH. Just funny.