Yall really arguing with a 13yo Kpop stan. Someone post her top 5... Kpop, Taylor, Sabrina...cant remember the other two lmao.
But yet, your stupid ass expects Drake to do just this lmao. Drake broke into the mainstream in 2009 and you're still making posts about how an album released in 2023 and debuting with 400k+ units and 500M+ US streams is some sort of L.
You don't even see how stupid you sound. You insist the Weeknd is the #2 biggest artist in the world but you're here coping for him to not have the expectations that come with that position assigned to him and yet you have loftier expectations for an artist like Drake who you don't believe is bigger than the Weeknd. Make it make sense.
I never expected Drake to clear 700M+ streams. I’m just expecting you guys to keep the same energy.
If we are asking Weeknd to reach his commercial peaks 5 years after said peak, then the same should be asked of Drake, no?
Or do you still not understand that commercial success is relative and not all artists should be judged on the same scale.
Weeknd IS the #2 biggest artist in the world, but like you say whenever it’s convenient, we’re talking about US performance specifically right now
Do we have any knowledge on average # of listeners per first week streams in the US? Ie when “so and so megastar pulls 500mil+ streams first week for the Boinga Woinga album in the US” - how many unique listeners made up those 500 million streams? And what’s the usual average # of unique listeners for these things?
That’s more interesting to me than actual streams tbh and I think we should know
I never expected Drake to clear 700M+ streams. I’m just expecting you guys to keep the same energy.
If we are asking Weeknd to reach his commercial peaks 5 years after said peak, then the same should be asked of Drake, no?
Or do you still not understand that commercial success is relative and not all artists should be judged on the same scale.
Weeknd IS the #2 biggest artist in the world, but like you say whenever it’s convenient, we’re talking about US performance specifically right now
I understand that you will make every excuse in the world for the Weeknd because you're a stan but you'll hold everyone else to a ridiculous expectation.
And this thing you do where you act like the US isn't a part of the world, is stupid. The US is BY FAR the Weeknd's biggest market. Take it away and he isn't a top 50 artist in the world. Stop acting like his music is doing any real damage in markets outside the US because it's not, especially compared to the US. He's a superstar because of his success in the US.
He's such a massive global superstar according to you and yet the breakdown of the 110 shows on his stadium tour is 63 shows in North America/13 shows in Latin America, 30 shows in Europe and 4 in Australia. That's it.
His global numbers have never outdone Drake's and yet, you persist with the narrative that he's a bigger global artist and the only thing you have as proof is that he was the #2 most streamed artist on Spotify last year lmao.
Do we have any knowledge on average # of listeners per first week streams in the US? Ie when “so and so megastar pulls 500mil+ streams first week for the Boinga Woinga album in the US” - how many unique listeners made up those 500 million streams? And what’s the usual average # of unique listeners for these things?
That’s more interesting to me than actual streams tbh and I think we should know
No, we don't have those numbers.
Put greatdivine and fader in the billboard building f*** ktt we need the real numbers
I understand that you will make every excuse in the world for the Weeknd because you're a stan but you'll hold everyone else to a ridiculous expectation.
And this thing you do where you act like the US isn't a part of the world, is stupid. The US is BY FAR the Weeknd's biggest market. Take it away and he isn't a top 50 artist in the world. Stop acting like his music is doing any real damage in markets outside the US because it's not, especially compared to the US. He's a superstar because of his success in the US.
He's such a massive global superstar according to you and yet the breakdown of the 110 shows on his stadium tour is 63 shows in North America/13 shows in Latin America, 30 shows in Europe and 4 in Australia. That's it.
His global numbers have never outdone Drake's and yet, you persist with the narrative that he's a bigger global artist and the only thing you have as proof is that he was the #2 most streamed artist on Spotify last year lmao.
It’s quite a simple concept to understand. If you don’t then that’s on you.
I don’t make any excuses for Weeknd and I hold him to the same relative standard that I hold everyone else
I’m not expecting Drake’s next album to sell 600K+ first week because I’m not an idiot, but YOU sound like an idiot for expecting Weeknd’s commercial best every time he releases an album.
Daily reminder that the guy has NEVER cleared 500K first week in sales, he has NEVER cleared 230M first week in streams, and he has NEVER cleared 59M first day streams. Hope this helps.
Do we have any knowledge on average # of listeners per first week streams in the US? Ie when “so and so megastar pulls 500mil+ streams first week for the Boinga Woinga album in the US” - how many unique listeners made up those 500 million streams? And what’s the usual average # of unique listeners for these things?
That’s more interesting to me than actual streams tbh and I think we should know
This is a much more interesting stat and I think it would reveal some harsh truths about certain artists
It’s quite a simple concept to understand. If you don’t then that’s on you.
I don’t make any excuses for Weeknd and I hold him to the same relative standard that I hold everyone else
I’m not expecting Drake’s next album to sell 600K+ first week because I’m not an idiot, but YOU sound like an idiot for expecting Weeknd’s commercial best every time he releases an album.
Daily reminder that the guy has NEVER cleared 500K first week in sales, he has NEVER cleared 230M first week in streams, and he has NEVER cleared 59M first day streams. Hope this helps.
I don't expect that every time. Only when he pushes physicals and interestingly enough, he always does major numbers when that happens. After Hours/HUT both crossed 400k. BBTM/Starboy both cross 300k+.
Only one of his albums since he broke out in the mainstream has failed to reach that mark and that album dropped with no physicals but you'll come on here acting like expecting a properly released album by him to do numbers along what he's done in the past is expecting too much.
He'll always be able to hit 300k-400k with the proper release because those aren't huge numbers to hit once physicals come into play.
You‘re clearly not from the US lol
lol don’t be ridiculous, u know what i mean
selling 20 million units would make this the best-selling rap song of all time (depending on whether you count ‘See You Again’ as a rap song)
It was undeniably huge in 2017, but it doesn’t quite feel like the biggest rap song of all time
lol don’t be ridiculous, u know what i mean
selling 20 million units would make this the best-selling rap song of all time (depending on whether you count ‘See You Again’ as a rap song)
It was undeniably huge in 2017, but it doesn’t quite feel like the biggest rap song of all time
It was everywhere in the US for ages man, nobody says that this is the "biggest" rap song of all time but Kendrick always sells crazy here. This isn't surprising at all.
lol don’t be ridiculous, u know what i mean
selling 20 million units would make this the best-selling rap song of all time (depending on whether you count ‘See You Again’ as a rap song)
It was undeniably huge in 2017, but it doesn’t quite feel like the biggest rap song of all time
its what streaming does with songs that has longevity. I don't even think Money Trees ever charted but it has 10M+ equivalent sales.
NLU about to be diamond in a year too.
Any estimates on GNX numbers this week?
tomorrow, HDD seems to be hinting at it competing for #1 due to the physical release
curious to see what kenny moves in physicals
i could see 150k
I see him doing 100k min. A lot of it was sold out for a while so depends on how many they produced as well.
It does look like he may hit 200k+ total this week though in general
Level 1:
Elvis 1956
Beatles 1964
Beatles 1967
MJ 1983
Level 2:
Em 2000
Em 2002
50 2003
Adele 2011
Bad Bunny 2022
These are THE years culturally + everything else - but mainly culturally. I think all the other years ‘in the convo’ aren’t on these levels tbh, they’re all fighting for Level 3 at best
Level 1:
Elvis 1956
Beatles 1964
Beatles 1967
MJ 1983
Level 2:
Em 2000
Em 2002
50 2003
Adele 2011
Bad Bunny 2022
These are THE years culturally + everything else - but mainly culturally. I think all the other years ‘in the convo’ aren’t on these levels tbh, they’re all fighting for Level 3 at best
What classic all time song did Bad Bunny drop in 2022?
Cause im tryna think of what hit from that album is competing with the classics in all those other examples…
Level 1:
Elvis 1956
Beatles 1964
Beatles 1967
MJ 1983
Level 2:
Em 2000
Em 2002
50 2003
Adele 2011
Bad Bunny 2022
These are THE years culturally + everything else - but mainly culturally. I think all the other years ‘in the convo’ aren’t on these levels tbh, they’re all fighting for Level 3 at best
idk...
What standard man.
After Hours debuted with 220M streams.
Starboy debuted with 175M streams.
Dawn FM debuted with 173M streams.
HUT debuted with 171M streams.
What is this standard y’all speak of
aside from Starboy, these numbers are pretty underwhelming
an artist of Weeknd’s caliber should have at least one album debut with 300 million streams
Level 1:
Elvis 1956
Beatles 1964
Beatles 1967
MJ 1983
Level 2:
Em 2000
Em 2002
50 2003
Adele 2011
Bad Bunny 2022
These are THE years culturally + everything else - but mainly culturally. I think all the other years ‘in the convo’ aren’t on these levels tbh, they’re all fighting for Level 3 at best
Drake 2016 or 2018 is not at least level 2?